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Title: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 09, 2015, 06:28:47 PM
I'm listening to the Sky Blue Sky album from Wilco and this topic came to mind. I'm a huge fan a lot of music that honestly wasn't recorded to well, but I still love it. I think the music choices I have influence the gear I buy in the way that I prefer something more musical rather than something sifting plankton, not that I don't appreciate hugely resolving headphones, but a lot of my music isn't conducive to it. What do you guys think who also love lo-fi tunes?
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: GESTALT on July 09, 2015, 07:19:17 PM
Sometimes distortion sounds good, helps the mood. Generally it doesn't harm catchy songs as much, ones less dependent on the harmonic or tonality.

It may also work well with strings, if recorded in certain way. But for orchestra it usually just makes it feel tinny or else as if cotton in my ears.

Other times it doesn't hurt as much, because of well mastered original. See this example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP7AD9HCleE), lofi because 96kbs aac. But still sounds great.

listening on HE560 with N-shaped eq, and it sound great (the brass eg at 2:29 is not hurt much by the low quality of the source)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 09, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
Love lo-fi.  Sparklehorse and Mercury Rev are two come to mind.  And distortion drove guitar amp evolution, so it can't be all bad.

Is that what you meant? 
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 09, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
Love lo-fi.  Sparklehorse and Mercury Rev are two come to mind.  And distortion drove guitar amp revolution, so it can't be all bad.

Is that what you meant? 
Not familiar with them, but some bands that came to mind were Sufjan Stevens and Modest Mouse.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: maverickronin on July 09, 2015, 08:47:14 PM
Some headphones seem to have FR's specifically designed to make poor recording and mastering sound even worse with peaks in the high mids/low treble.  It gives the illusion of "detail" by boosting things that normally get masked by other frequencies.

Whether you prefer a bright or dark tilt a headphone with a smooth frequency response should go well with all but the most egregious of tracks regardless of how resolving or detailed it is.

Most of the music I listen to is in genres which typically suffer from poor recording and mastering but all else equal I still prefer the more "detailed" or "resolving" headphone.  I might hear flaws in the production that I didn't didn't hear before, but I'll usually also hear nuances in the music I didn't hear before so I think it's a fair trade.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Claritas on July 09, 2015, 09:14:07 PM
Whether you prefer a bright or dark tilt a headphone with a smooth frequency response should go well with all but the most egregious of tracks regardless of how resolving or detailed it is.

A couple of months ago, I wanted to listen to the first recorded Mahler symphony (the 2d, conducted by Oskar Fried in 1928). The quality is abysmal--hiss like you wouldn't believe. I couldn't bear it on Paradox or HD600. But I could easily tolerate it on my lady's PM1 with the velour pads. Resolution, FR, X factor, all of the above? Dunno.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 09, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
Not familiar with them, but some bands that came to mind were Sufjan Stevens and Modest Mouse.

Ooh.  Just saw Modest Mouse last month in San Jose (Mountain View).  3rd row center stage seats, no less.  It was no doubt the new album Strangers to Ourselves tour, but most of their material seemed to be old standbys from their previous albums.  I think most of the distortion may have been on my side, tho.  ;)

Sparklehorse's Good Morning Spider is one of my all time favorites of anybody, with "Chaos of the Galaxy/Happy Man" the epitomy of lo-fi.  And Mercury Rev's Deserter's Songs is my favorite of theirs. 

Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is their standout, but for some reason I'm partial to Summerteeth, and I even like their newest one, The Whole Love.

Haven't yet listened to Sufjan Stevens, tho I know I had been tempted to pull a trigger on a CD of his at least once.  Illinoise, maybe?   
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 09, 2015, 10:29:50 PM
Haven't yet listened to Sufjan Stevens, tho I know I had been tempted to pull a trigger on a CD of his at least once.  Illinoise, maybe?   
Carrie & Lowell is probably the best album of the year. It's phenomenal. I'd recommend it.

As far as good lo-fi, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Grandaddy.

The White Stripes also had a bunch of odd quirks to their recordings. All analog, but it sounds like cheap equipment for at least their first few albums.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 09, 2015, 11:04:42 PM
I've got their Just Like the Fambly Cat CD, but somehow it hadn't captured me.

I picked up just recently Jack White's 2 latest solo efforts, Blunderbuss and Lazaretto; one of the reasons being he insists on recording in analog.  But neither of those have yet done it for me, either.

Are my expectations getting too unreasonable in me old age, you suppose? 

Just pulled the trigger on Carrie & Lowell, so I'm now spun up about that...  ;)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 09, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
Carrie and Lowell is a very personal album that requires attention. Hope you enjoy it and that it grows in ya!
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 09, 2015, 11:34:06 PM
I've got their Just Like the Fambly Cat CD, but somehow it hadn't captured me.
A rather lackluster album, really. Try The Software Slump or Sumday. Under the Western Freeway is great as well, but quite a bit more uneven.

I picked up just recently Jack White's 2 latest solo efforts, Blunderbuss and Lazaretto; one of the reasons being he insists on recording in analog.  But neither of those have yet done it for me, either.
Both of those are good, but not great. Try The White Stripes - Elephant or The White Stripes - De Stigjl. Both are better (as is the whole White Stripes catalog).

Are my expectations getting too unreasonable in me old age, you suppose? 
Nah, you've just picked up the later albums when they've ran out of creative juices.

Just pulled the trigger on Carrie & Lowell, so I'm now spun up about that...  ;)
Excellent. Enjoy! It's delicate and lovely and sad and understanding and all grown up.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: maverickronin on July 10, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
A couple of months ago, I wanted to listen to the first recorded Mahler symphony (the 2d, conducted by Oskar Fried in 1928). The quality is abysmal--hiss like you wouldn't believe. I couldn't bear it on Paradox or HD600. But I could easily tolerate it on my lady's PM1 with the velour pads. Resolution, FR, X factor, all of the above? Dunno.

I'd say that kind of hiss would qualify as egregious, though entirely understandable for 1928!

If you're a big "analog" fan then you might want to carve out a separate category for that but I grew up knowing that everything's already quantized anyway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum) so it never held much attraction.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: anetode on July 10, 2015, 01:23:50 AM
A couple of months ago, I wanted to listen to the first recorded Mahler symphony (the 2d, conducted by Oskar Fried in 1928). The quality is abysmal--hiss like you wouldn't believe. I couldn't bear it on Paradox or HD600. But I could easily tolerate it on my lady's PM1 with the velour pads. Resolution, FR, X factor, all of the above? Dunno.

Paradox and hiss don't make a good combo.

I can see liking a forgiving smoothed-over ortho like the Oppo or Audeze with lo-fi. Definitely stay away from anything with spiky treble. I like the Stax Omegas (007/009) with lo-fi recordings, both have a revealing but slightly forgiving quality, with 009 for a slightly more neutral sound or the 007 for a more mello approach.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 10, 2015, 01:42:29 AM
I can see liking a forgiving smoothed-over ortho like the Oppo or Audeze with lo-fi. Definitely stay away from anything with spiky treble. I like the Stax Omegas (007/009) with lo-fi recordings, both have a revealing but slightly forgiving quality, with 009 for a slightly more neutral sound or the 007 for a more mello approach.

Nothing quite like the HE-1K to soften that lo-fi sound :)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Sphinxvc on July 10, 2015, 05:08:12 AM
Good topic.  Lo-fi probably includes streaming services like Pandora, or compressed, but convenient file formats like MP3.  If lo-fi is your primary diet, why invest in uber-gear?  But unfortunately, I don't think that means anything will do in terms of gear.  Most of what's on the market falls below the bar for passable gear, even for lo-fi listening.  My ears ask for a smooth FR, and on the IEM front, single drivers rather than multi-drivers.  Maybe that's because I hear the cross-over easier with shit quality music?  Simple sources seem to work better too.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: maverickronin on July 10, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
Good topic.  Lo-fi probably includes streaming services like Pandora, or compressed, but convenient file formats like MP3.

Recording and mastering quality is a far bigger factor in SQ than any modern lossy codec at a half decent bitrate.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 10, 2015, 04:01:00 PM
Recording and mastering quality is a far bigger factor in SQ than any modern lossy codec at a half decent bitrate.
I agree with this as well. Also when I mention lo-fi I meant from a recording perspective, not a format perspective. I assume that most of us are using flac or at least a transparent/nearly so lossy bit rate.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 10, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
You guys are confusing lo-fi music with mid-fi playback equipment.  Lo-fi can actually be quite complex in transition and overlay, and any deliberate distortion is there for effect, sometimes haunting, which can be diminished in playback if not faithfully reproduced.  I for one don't wish to compromise the musical fidelity by using less than stellar audio gear.  But that's me, and I freely admit to being a resolution whore.

@drfindley:
The problem I'm having with those album releases is that those CDs (all but De Stigjl) are being held in "joint custody" by my daughter (comes from my having sent my CD purchases to her for ostensively forwarding to me while I was living in Canada - long story).  Anyway, I'm kinda loathe to buy those particular CDs again, unless there's been a noteworthy remastering since then or I've really started missing hearing that album, so I tend to buy other releases by those groups subsequently, and it's been an admittedly hit or miss affair.   
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: mosshorn on July 10, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
Good example: with my Herus+ and UERM's, I can listen to Dinosaur Jr., but not Breaking Benjamin. Lo-fi can still be good quality. Also  no matter how hard we try, if the artist/engineer intended for us to listen to it a certain way, there is nothing we can do short of working on the tracks ourselves. See "St. Anger" by Metallica.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Sphinxvc on July 10, 2015, 08:43:58 PM
Recording and mastering quality is a far bigger factor in SQ than any modern lossy codec at a half decent bitrate.

Well and true.  I stretched the lo-fi label to fit over lossy streaming/formats (with room to spare), mostly since it's relevant to my own considerations with gear.

I feel like there's greater prevalence of the lossy issue.

I assume that most of us are using flac or at least a transparent/nearly so lossy bit rate.

Very likely.  Your first post really resonated with me, but from a different starting point. 

--

Edit: Lol, maybe I did stretch it too far.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo-fi_music
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 10, 2015, 08:49:08 PM
First, lo-fi is a genre :)

The problem I'm having with those album releases is that those CDs (all but De Stigjl) are being held in "joint custody" by my daughter (comes from my having sent my CD purchases to her for ostensively forwarding to me while I was living in Canada - long story).  Anyway, I'm kinda loathe to buy those particular CDs again, unless there's been a noteworthy remastering since then or I've really started missing hearing that album, so I tend to buy other releases by those groups subsequently, and it's been an admittedly hit or miss affair.   
I think you're hitting the problem you hit with any band, where the first few albums are stellar, but the follow-ons lose the drive, the purpose for why the band made music. Weezer, U2, Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews Band, REM, Coldplay, etc. have all lost it and are producing lack-luster music compared to their yesteryears. Perhaps one of the few bands somewhat avoiding this is Radiohead, where they've just chosen to be a different band each album (roughly).

Maybe your daughter can install a lovely ripping app and send you FLACs? :)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 10, 2015, 10:01:29 PM
Strange as it seems, I'm not currently doing digital downloads.  There's something visceral and permanent about owning plastic, and I'm a collector by nature.  And there's a whole universe of recordings that are just not available in any format but Redbook CD.

A better paradigm would be for my daughter to rip the 'JC' CDs and give them back to me.  And truthfully she's done some already, it's just that there's still a whole slew of them lost in boxes since she's subsequently moved.  That and the fact that she's (waaay) in over her head already with family/social/vocation time commitments.  Matter of fact I only occasionally miss some of them, since I've got plenty of others to occupy my time.  And I've got some new ones coming in, to boot.  ;)

Yeah, I'm well aware of the band creative juices drying up phenomenon.  I read somewhere that the music industry is so demanding these days with group appearances, album release schedules, fast lane lifestyles, etc. that group artists' sponteneous creativity is consumed after only one or two album releases more so than ever.  I think that one of the secrets of the Beatles' great success was their ability to reinvent themselves with each new album.

I hope that 'lo-fi is a genre' comment wasn't directed to me. 
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: anetode on July 10, 2015, 10:28:51 PM
Nothing quite like the HE-1K to soften that lo-fi sound :)

EQ down the lower treble a little and it's not bad  :P
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: madaboutaudio on July 10, 2015, 10:54:19 PM
Speaking of low-fi....(or the worst song in the entire universe, makes Rebecca Black Friday sounds like angel singing in comparsion, even getting rick rolled doesn't feel as bad as this)

You have been warned. Play it at your own risk.  :vomit:
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Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 10, 2015, 11:16:36 PM
Well, that exists...
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 11, 2015, 01:57:45 AM
I hope that 'lo-fi is a genre' comment wasn't directed to me. 
Nope :)

Good luck with the CDs, but yes. Old Grandaddy and all White Stripes are good things.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: LFF on July 11, 2015, 02:42:22 AM
Very interesting topic guys.


To me, it's extremely interesting how a genre like LoFi Rock can be so HiFi.


All of the White Stripes which I have heard from good sources are surprisingly very hifi and have tons of resolution.


The problem, as always, comes down to the damn mastering. Fortunately, if you own a turntable, you can completely verify this. Elephant was released in the UK on vinyl and it was mastered very well and it came directly from the master. Icky Thump was released on vinyl here in the US and it was mastered very, very well and it also came from the master tapes. Both of these vinyl releases completely outclass the CD's in terms of spatial placement, resolution, dynamics, detail, and overall sound quality.


Trust me - the genre LoFi doesn't really mean low quality sound.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: knerian on July 11, 2015, 02:54:32 AM
Nothing quite like the HE-1K to soften that lo-fi sound :)
I was just waiting for someone to say that.

HATER!
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 11, 2015, 06:01:58 AM
All of the White Stripes which I have heard from good sources are surprisingly very hifi and have tons of resolution.

The problem, as always, comes down to the damn mastering. Fortunately, if you own a turntable, you can completely verify this. Elephant was released in the UK on vinyl and it was mastered very well and it came directly from the master. Icky Thump was released on vinyl here in the US and it was mastered very, very well and it also came from the master tapes. Both of these vinyl releases completely outclass the CD's in terms of spatial placement, resolution, dynamics, detail, and overall sound quality.

Actually, I picked up The White Stripes first three on vinyl because there was a limited release of analog to analog records. It's totally been worth it! Such great pressings. It's what's converted me to vinyl.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: 1melomaniac on July 12, 2015, 01:14:50 AM
To me, it's extremely interesting how a genre like LoFi Rock can be so HiFi.

But there is a retro flavor to it, which plays into skepticism about new tech (from loudness wars and digital representation to recording tech and - of course - sound production and reproduction). I was just browsing this history of recording by Bell Labs... http://www.stokowski.org/Development_of_Electrical_Recording.htm and what stands out to me is that the trade-off between quality and convenience is one thing, the trade-off between innovation and the familiarity of retro touches is another...
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Deep Funk on July 12, 2015, 07:21:44 PM
I am now listening to Tool. Some artists and bands have this thing that their sound is whatever they like it to be. When they pull it off I listen.

Low-Fi, Medium-Fi or High-Fi?

When I cannot bear music through headphones there are two options.
1. Sounds acceptable or good through speakers? Keep it and listen.
2. Still sounds unbearable? Will never be played.

For instance I absolutely detest Michael Jackson's albums from the 90ties. After "Bad" I refuse to play his albums no matter how hi-res you make them. When artists lose their sound to chase trends that take out what made them a good listen, fuck it.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 16, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Nope :)

Good luck with the CDs, but yes. Old Grandaddy and all White Stripes are good things.

Get Sparklehorse's Distorted Ghost EP, if you don't already have it.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: drfindley on July 17, 2015, 02:51:31 AM
Get Sparklehorse's Distorted Ghost EP, if you don't already have it.
Adding it to my list to try :)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: spoony on July 17, 2015, 04:38:45 AM
I'm listening to the Sky Blue Sky album from Wilco and this topic came to mind.
Such an underrated album. The sound is purposely noisy and distorted, it is not, however, shitty-sounding; Not offensively compressed (for my listening levels), nor eq'd overly hot, it's kinda smooth and rolled-off in a pleasant way, but not devoid of texture like the earlier Devendra Banhart albums. I think it's a well realized sound with a concrete idea behind. Sounds that way with all my headphones, too. I'll gladly take this over the plentiful 'higher-fi' albums with offensive EQ in parts and show-stopping sibilance.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: chetlanin on July 19, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
A pre WWII recording: Poor audio, but otherwise unforgettable (I would say)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUQJQ0QjQb0

Would this be more "musical rewarding" if it was super duper hi fi? (I doubt it)

Maybe the oldfashioned sound is a certain plus, actually? And/or maybe piano music is less demanding when it comes to sound quality? 

Or is music and audio more loosely connected than we (in audio circles) often think?.

If simplification is allowed, I would say this seems complicated..
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: maverickronin on July 20, 2015, 12:29:38 AM
Would this be more "musical rewarding" if it was super duper hi fi? (I doubt it)

At least it would get rid out that $DEITY-awful hiss...
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Deep Funk on July 20, 2015, 12:32:38 AM
When music sounds good, it is good and it is always personal. I have this thing for Kyuss and Gore, fuck it I enjoy their music.

Thingy-Fi this, Thingy-Fi that? If you want to Thingy-Fi everything stop listening to the music and give up on musical enjoyment or disgust. To perceive and feel is human and part of the musical experience. Not everything can be measured and the "Fi" for "fidelity" is sometimes nothing more than utter bullshit.

Call this thread "Sound-Fi Science" if you want to be honest.

Enough banter, rant over...
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 20, 2015, 01:40:57 AM
When music sounds good, it is good and it is always personal. I have this thing for Kyuss and Gore, fuck it I enjoy their music.

Thingy-Fi this, Thingy-Fi that? If you want to Thingy-Fi everything stop listening to the music and give up on musical enjoyment or disgust. To perceive and feel is human and part of the musical experience. Not everything can be measured and the "Fi" for "fidelity" is sometimes nothing more than utter bullshit.

Call this thread "Sound-Fi Science" if you want to be honest.

Enough banter, rant over...
Before you go on another rant you might want to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo-fi_music
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: Deep Funk on July 20, 2015, 07:09:56 AM
I reference Gore for a reason. Not exactly buttery smooth sound and not exactly Dire Straits production values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPNuBsfygSk

Have fun Thingy-Fiying your life...

Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 20, 2015, 01:52:10 PM
Have fun Thingy-Fiying your life...

Okay
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: aufmerksam on July 20, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
Not to muddy the waters further (pun intended!), but the genre designation of "lo-fi" is really a misnomer if we are going to translate to audio gear. As I understand modern "lo-fi", it is more about rejection of uber-mastering, like auto-tune, extensive overdubbing, etc., in favor of more organic recording principles, like simpler gear, fewer takes, etc. Sometimes poverty is a factor, sometimes not. I don't think either of these approaches is superior, and I have enjoyed music from both, even on plankton-rich setups.

When I think about the initial reference to sky blue sky, an album I love, I have never thought that it was undeserving of the HD800, even from CD. I had the same general reaction to most of the albums/artists that were bantered about. Luis is right, "lofi doesn't mean low quality sound." There are shitty recordings on great studio gear, and great recordings on shitty gear. Also, sometimes the desired effect simply calls for lower tech production gear, even if one is later listening on high-fidelity headphones. Take Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea as an example: Jeff Mangum's vocals on the title trackwhole album are meant to sound sad and kind of spooky, but on my HD800 he sounds downright haunting.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 21, 2015, 01:02:46 AM
If you're going to take that definition of lo-fi, then I've been lately amassing a collection of radio station annual compilation releases for charity of recordings of live sessions that they've made of guest band/artist appearances at their studio that go out to their listeners during their morning drives, for example.

These recording are generally simple clean mike recordings with little or no mixing/mastering effort made after the fact for release.  They are so engaging in their freshness, literally recreating the session environment itself between your ears.  And I've been discovering some groups in the process, to boot. The late 90s/early 00s releases I'm finding particularly appealing.

Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is captured lightning in a bottle, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: RexAeterna on July 21, 2015, 03:47:06 AM
Nope. I listen to lot of stuff and lot can be badly recorded. Music is music to me.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 21, 2015, 02:34:41 PM
Speaking of ITAOTS, Holland 1945 is one of the most raw songs I've ever heard. The clipping distorted guitars add so much to that IMO.
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 21, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
Seriously, if musical saws ala ITAOTS float your boat, Mercury Rev's Deserter's Songs will positively stroke your oars. 2 noteworthy:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2c_E_c-U0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2c_E_c-U0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iVMqOmAYtY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iVMqOmAYtY)
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: keanex on July 21, 2015, 07:13:13 PM
To add to that, check out the band A Hawk and a Hacksaw
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: aufmerksam on July 22, 2015, 04:49:42 AM
Let's talk lo-fi music and its influences on gear
Title: Re: Let's talk lo-fi music and it's influences on gear
Post by: jacal01 on July 22, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
It's influence on gear?  Makes me want to use it.

Have to muster Yo La Tengo's Popular Songs here:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZFuMxZdmiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZFuMxZdmiU)

Definition of lo-fi?  Haunting.