CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Main Deck => Discussion for Registered Members Only => Topic started by: rhythmdevils on June 02, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
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Post funny/stupid/genius/shocking/etc quotes about audio gear from HF or elsewhere. Should turn into a fun archive 8)
Don't post the [user]name of the person unless they really deserve it.
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"the first headphone sounds like thinking of music and the second like music of thinking"
Not sure if genius or nonsense.
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"the first headphone sounds like thinking of music and the second like music of thinking"
Not sure if genius or nonsense.
I think you mean genius of nonsense ... or maybe nonsense of genius.
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Oh man, this is a good one. Gotta record it before it gets erased. Was in response to my post, which is also quoted here.
Not once have I trusted a graph over my listening impressions. Not once. I like and dislike the exact same headphones now as I did before I ever saw these graphs. If you knew more about my history you would probably understand though I'm not holding my breath. I'm not going to try to prove anything to you, I could care less.
I could care less about your history, just stick to being the classless arrogant, cantankerous ass that you are........and break out your scissors and dixie cups.....keep teaching those AKG and Beyer engineers how to "DO IT"........you pompous ass
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I'm not sure there's such a thing as a proper context for this one..
"As far as I'm concerned FR / CSD is only the colour accuracy of a PC monitor / TV so a school of thought criticizing the latest Sony Bravia 1080P 600Hz w/e for having too high blue levels and saying some Panasonic from 2002 is better (in colour accuracy) doesn't seem like an accurate assessment.
I don't see any emblazoned reasons to turn the Tesla T70p into a reference STAX in CSD response if sacrifces have to me made in other departments of it's sound, so no.
You need to answer the question on an adjusted (eq + noise) Audeze LCD-3 versus Skullcandy Mix Master Mike if anyone is going to follow your school of thought."
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This is an oldie but a goodie. Defending the high THD in the DS, with Mulveling's response:
"and, by the way bcg27, knowing technicalities does not qualify one to comment on an amp they've never heard.
i don't go around in the beta 22 theads knocking that amp.
i'm sure it's a great amp.
but since you brought up THD, i'll illustrate something for you about the 2% figure.
2dB is the sound of someone rubbing the skin on their fingers together.
go ahead, try it. it's awfully quiet. try it in a noisy environment, and you won't hear it.
100 dB is the sound of standing next to a car with its engine revving.
now stand next to a car with its engine revving, and rub your fingers together.
that is the sound of the distortion products of the dark star."
Mulveling:
"Here's a quick brush up on high school math:
2% distortion means that the power of the distortion signal divided by the power of the full signal is 0.02
By definition:
delta in decibels = 10 * log_base_10 (power factor) =>
10*log(0.02) = -16.99 dB
So the 2% distortion signal in your 100dB revved engine analogy would actually be at 83dB, not 2dB. THAT would be more like the sound of a vexed girlfriend/wife trying to get your attention to turn the damn thing off (at least, for the first couple tries). Note that many tube amps (not all) will have a similar levels of distortion, except that it tends to be more aesthetically pleasing than that of their solid-state counterparts. So back to your car analogy - a tube amp's distortion would be like a hot single babe going "hey hon, wanna take me for a ride?" :) "
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I'm not sure there's such a thing as a proper context for this one..
Kiteki deserves some recognition for that quote. ;) I've got to be on the DL for a bit on HF but I hope Marv opens a can of woop ass on him.
That kind of logic is the equivalent of saying that CSD's are irrelevant because my lawn is greener than your lawn and yet we can both play croquet just as easily.
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A lot of stupid stuff being said at HF this weekend.
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We're never going to run out of material...
"I have also been using the W3000ANV for daily commute lately. This morning I am wearing my W3000ANV using a portable iPhone-Fostex-SR71A combo (which is hidden in my Burberry suitcase) on the MTR (the sub / underground in Hong Kong). A kid walked by wearing BEATS BY DR DRE and turned around at me and had that look of he is using something superior to mine. Well, who knows, may be true. :p "
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I have so many "loving" words to say about the goings on at HF right now. But right now I'm kinda burned out >:(. Gish Gallop as they say?
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In debate and legal speak it's called 'spreading' which I find a more pleasing sound to the ear. But let's not confuse it w/ random or incoherent musings in accordance w/ one's own beliefs. It's actually a deliberate, well reasoned tactic used to overwhelm an adversary limited by time and/or financial constraints.
Sorry to break the mood, please continue.... ;D
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Considering the nitpicking and rambling across multiple threads at once, especially when they're done by one person to four-five odd people at once, "spreading" may be just an issue of semantics.
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U may have a point there. I've definitely stopped following most of that forum for some of the reasons you mention.
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Rich HK kids wasting their parents' money?
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I'm not sure there's such a thing as a proper context for this one..
"As far as I'm concerned FR / CSD is only the colour accuracy of a PC monitor / TV so a school of thought criticizing the latest Sony Bravia 1080P 600Hz w/e for having too high blue levels and saying some Panasonic from 2002 is better (in colour accuracy) doesn't seem like an accurate assessment.
I don't see any emblazoned reasons to turn the Tesla T70p into a reference STAX in CSD response if sacrifces have to me made in other departments of it's sound, so no.
You need to answer the question on an adjusted (eq + noise) Audeze LCD-3 versus Skullcandy Mix Master Mike if anyone is going to follow your school of thought."
You're still debating with kiteki? Half of his posts don't even make sense.
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It's far less than half, but occasionally he says something coherent enough to respond to. Besides, now it's just funny.
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I found this gem because someone revived an old thread. Emphasis added by me.
why would anyone want to do that to their expensive cans is beyond my comprehension. If Beyer felt it needed more damping on their flagship headphone they would have done it. To each his own but I would not mess with the T1 and I hear an extended treble with my tube gear. The reason I purchased the T1 was because I found it was one of the few headphones that did pretty much everything right. And to use a Tampon to boot.
The HF member who said it has been quoted on this very site before. He goes on in the T1 mod thread to try to convince the T1 owners attempting the mod that the stock sound is fine and they shouldn't screw with it. The mod in question was a teased cotton ball bundled into one side of the cup. I was waiting for him to respond to me so I could go off on him for being not only unnecessarily argumentative but also dumbly blind to the qualified opinions of others.
Question: Should this topic be available to landlubbers?
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It's far less than half, but occasionally he says something coherent enough to respond to. Besides, now it's just funny.
Ha :P
You can sometimes be a bit wordy in your answers, but you get your point across, but half of the time, I don't even know the point kiketi is trying to convey, except amassing random bit of trivia that are peripherally linked to audio. ::)
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Unless I'm lucky enough to think of a pithy one-liner quickly my posts tend to balloon as I attempt to make sure everything is properly qualified and explained.
OTOH, when you see stuff like this and go from stunned disbelief to barley being able to contain your laughter it can be worth it...
"Oh look I just found the differences between AD797 and OPA627
Why is it not in the THD+N or FR oh noes my snow kingdom of science in the sky is melting help meeee
see attached picture"
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The reason Kiteki doesn't like measurements is because he can't hear worth a damn and [the good] measurements confront this. He wants to be able to assert any random subjective impressions as fact.
I'm starting to think that people who lean too far in either the objectivist or subjectivist camps are in denial of their hearing problems or inabilities. Of course, it depends on what measurements, and who's doing the hearing.
There are certain things I don't care about. I'm happy with a well modded T50rp out of an ipod. But you don't see me saying that good sources/amps do nothing, or that Marv/Anax are just imagining things when listening to the BA/super7.
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I don't think you need to go farther than some basic psychology to explain that kind of stuff.
Mostly what gets me riled up are fraud, deception, and when people tell newbies they won't enjoy a good headphone without some expensive source or amp, should spend tons of money on it upfront, and not bother at all if they don't have the cash.
With that last one you don't even need to make an appeal to either the primacy of measurements or the subjective experience of expert golden-eared listeners. Either one could be right but the fact is that plenty of people enjoy good headphones even out of an ipod, receiver, onboard sound, or inexpensive head amp so if someone is new to the hobby doesn't it make sense to try the cheaper option first? From the way some people talk you'd think it was like driving you car around without tires on the rims.
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I guess I should clarify before the wrong person reads that the wrong way. It's not that I don't hear a difference, I do. It's just that those differences aren't as bothersome to me as the problems in the transducer, and there aren't really any headphones that sound good enough for me to want to invest much in upstream gear ;) At least none I can afford.
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I think where Marv and myself get caught up in trouble is that we ascribe a lot of significance to differences many would consider more subtle or even negligible. For us some of these things are make or break and sometimes worth the cost only because that's what the performance costs. Personally I have a hard time giving up an experience of hearing something in a track I have never heard before so going backward is tough for me. I have no problem admitting it's some form of pathology. Both of us wish these well performing things didn't cost that much but it is what it is. I'd happily take an O2 over a Leben, Isabellina, Burson and much other over priced garbage. Perhaps even the Pinnacle as its too bright and analytical sounding for me. I won't take it over things my ears do like better that just happen to cost more. If either the BA, S7, Manley or Stratus and O2 swapped prices and chassis it wouldn't change what my ears crave.
I'm really pissed too that I found the ALO Rx mk3 the most transparent and capable portable amp I've ever heard displacing my Leckerton and perhaps even the Lisa 3. The price is ridiculous and Ken at ALO is a dickhead. F*ck me, I don't want to give him any money.
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Unless I'm lucky enough to think of a pithy one-liner quickly my posts tend to balloon as I attempt to make sure everything is properly qualified and explained.
OTOH, when you see stuff like this and go from stunned disbelief to barley being able to contain your laughter it can be worth it...
"Oh look I just found the differences between AD797 and OPA627
Why is it not in the THD+N or FR oh noes my snow kingdom of science in the sky is melting help meeee
see attached picture"
He has no idea of the physical laws behind anything and no idea of the scales and and magnitudes involved.
Other than that, I don't think anyone is immune to placebo or expectation bias, be they subjectivists or objectivists (in the audiophile sense). I'm fine relying on the listening impressions of people who have shown a good ear for casual purposes (ie buying a piece of gear with a return policy). But anything more, I prefer more solid evidence.
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Honestly, I think kiteki has gone off the deep end. Like, stopped-taking-important-medication type gone off the deep end.
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Yeah, kiteki kind of scares me sometimes. That's one reason I didn't wade in to bail RD out of trouble in the K550 thread. I waited until everyone involved was issued a warning by Curra to permanently stay away from it. Then I posted the same elephant turd pic that RD posted. How was I supposed to know he posted teh exact same photo? Geez?
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I'm still having a hard time not posting in the thread. When they can no longer accuse me of hearing things or placeboing myself by opening the cups before listening to them (who the fuck would open up a headphone before listening to it. You open it because of what you hear when you listen to it), Katun now blames me for "getting the ball rolling" with my "spamesque" posts. All I did was compare the K550 to the M50 and declare M50 the winner. But I mentioned many positives of the K550 along with it's shortcomings.
Head-fi needs a circle jerk forum so they can all crawl away and avoid anyone with half a brain.
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I'm still having a hard time not posting in the thread. When they can no longer accuse me of hearing things or placeboing myself by opening the cups before listening to them (who the fuck would open up a headphone before listening to it. You open it because of what you hear when you listen to it), Katun now blames me for "getting the ball rolling" with my "spamesque" posts. All I did was compare the K550 to the M50 and declare M50 the winner. But I mentioned many positives of the K550 along with it's shortcomings.
Head-fi needs a circle jerk forum so they can all crawl away and avoid anyone with half a brain.
If I understand right, the K550 threads were heavily modded? I noticed some stuff missing and completely missed a lot of the more contentious posts. Can anyone hook that shit(enfreude) up?
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In Windsor's surprisingly cogent roundup review:
"Your reviews lost all credibility with me when you said you could hear a difference between gold and silver contacts."
- MaximumRoom
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/162/317/2vA1a.png)
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Is that Lando Calrissian's Latin brother?
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Looks like Freddie Mercury (Queen)
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Ah yes. He looked a little buff in that render, threw me. Separated at birth? :P
(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlCt3jVGYGsHBRTcl_070mLswgTIsll-OlP3Bp21S6x6-8HbvM)(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmYx1_VzcKBYcUGMny98aXcDysxi2P1xSXA_zd7G_pE651na1m7w)
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Truly the last great mustache age.
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What are you talking about? We are living in the last great mustache age. You must never have been to the Mission district of SF? Mexican families + 24 yr old white hipsters with mustaches?
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Nope, midwest hipsters are still stuck in the mid 00s scruffy beard resurgence.
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This seems to be one of the better quick summaries of Tesla Beyers, followed by a pretty funny post by Kiteki, as he finds the one positive in the whole post and declares they must be amazing and will sell like hotcakes. Pretty good example of the rosey colored hype machine.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/607079/beyerdynamic-t90-d/180#post_8440072 (http://www.head-fi.org/t/607079/beyerdynamic-t90-d/180#post_8440072)
just wanted to share my impressions of the T90 - compared to HD600, t5p, t70, t70p, dt1350, dt880 250ohm
yesterday i visited a hifi shop in berlin / germany
the salesman said that the t90 was running in for 2 days. gear: mf m1 hpa (ss amp) + consonance cd player
the t90 had the same issues as all other tesla series - bright, empty body, unmusical, awful tonality - maybe a tubeamp would help
the t5p had the best definiton, transients, separation and a really nice kickdrum and overall tonality of the beyers
the t70p was really bright and lacking in the bass
the t70 bright but a nice midbass
the t90 almost had the speed/resolution of the t5p but lacked in definition, imaging, bright tonality and the bass weakest of all beyers. (maybe more burn in?)
the dt1350 was fast but lacked in prat and couldnt reach the performance of the larger beyers - would easily prefer my slower M50.
the dt880 was slower, had less resolution but had the best body and prat of the beyers with good tonality (actually all the tesla cans lacked in coherence, timing and body - no prat at all with those amps)
my stock hd600 was slower than the tesla beyers but it had the best prat of all (only with the m1 hpa. the lehmann rhinelander and mf v-can couldnt deliver the pace and timing of the m1 hpa) + great tonality, coherence and warmth / body. it easily was the most enjoyable of all.
sorry all beyrer fans but the t90 had really low bass level and an uncomfortable peak in the highs with the usual tesla tonality.
"Thanks for the amazing review vonjuergen. So the T90 has the speed, resolution, depth, presence and realism of the T5p? omggggg it's going to sell like hot cakes now.
No bass well equalizer+XB1000 = fixed"
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Yeah... I got pretty tired of Kiteki misconstruing most of what I said about things. I think he lives in another dimension or something, where red is blue and music smells like flowers.
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On one hand it's considered bad form to make fun of the mentally ill.
On the other hand it's considered bad form to make remote diagnoses. Especially when you're not even qualified to make local ones.
What to do, what to do...
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Block 'em.
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Originally Posted by jcx
kind of like asking "I've got a high end carbon fiber bike I'd like to carry on vacation - should I buy a Monster Truck with the extra Chrome option??
the Dark Star uses bridged output high voltage power chip amps (==op amps, and poorly speced for audio compared to LM3886)
its sole objective justification is driving insanely low sensitivity, lower impedance headphones - HiFiMan HE-6, you also could justify using it for the high V swing with AKG pro "monitor" headphones intended to connect direct across a normal audio power amp outputs
the HD-800 and the Dark Star don't belong together - the HD-800 is a High Z, moderate sensitivity headphone at 300 Ohms, can be driven to >120 dB SPL with ~12 Vpk, 40 mA - no need for 60 V, 4A
the objective, manufacturer's datasheet performance graphs for the power op amps used in the Dark Star show evidence for rising distortion at low signal levels - almost certainly crossover distortion - "lower levels" is the only place you would ever use on the Dark Star with the HD-800 - and crossover distoriton is generally considered the most audibly objectionalble"
And the manufacturer's response (laden with too many technical terms to decipher to explain his design choices):
The DarkStar & HD800 work very well together my friend. In fact the Dark Star brings the much needed warmth to those phones that tend to be on the bright side.
If you happened to be at the next up coming RMAF, please do stop by our table to give the DarkStar a listen with any hard to drive headphones or high impedance phones.
[I understand a user's line of "just try it" as there is no reason to expect them to justify a manufacturer's engineering choices. But when said manufacturer chimes in and completely avoids the salient technical points, their credibility as an engineer just goes further down the tubes.]
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"I think if a Grado and a Denon pro-created the result would be my modded T50."
Yikes. Goes to show how much you can change the sound of these with damping and mods... :-0
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Here is the thing on the darkstar. The current sense resistors are set to limit the maximum current to a little less than 1 ampere.
Which is 1 ampere balanced, or 1 ampere unbalanced. So on low impedance low sensitivity headphones, the current limit kicks
in at less than 10% of the possible voltage swing. Since i have measured current peaks on the he6 at significantly more than
1 amp at low frequencies due to its reactance, this amp turns out to be absolutely no good at low impedances, and due to
distortion, no good at high frequencies either.
If you heavily bias it into class A with a low impedance resistor from output to V- things improve a bunch. But it also
gets way hot, way fast.
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"Because they are harsh and bright. FR maybe flat but it is not in real life."
:-S
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If your headphone sounds harsh and bright, then you know it's accurate! Cuz things sound harsh and bright in real life.
So when those harsh and bright things sound doubly harsh and bright on your harsh and bright headphones.... well, you know it's even moar accurate.
Like 400% moar accurate (that's a Joe Grado figure right there!)
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"Ultrasones have a unique break-in process; I have not owned the 900s, but I have owned the 750s, 650s, HFI780s, and 700s. They take 180 hours to break in. They will sound pretty good for the first 5 hours and then they will change. At some point the bass goes away and doesn't return until the breakin is complete. Along the way it will be crunchy, flat, awful. Just put them in a sock drawer with the Mexican rap station blaring a little louder than you'd find comfortable for 8 days. I also had the senn 280 - those take 400 hours before they sound good! Most people ditch them long before that, but when you do it right the detail opens up, the range becomes wider, and they become smoother. Go!"
facepalm
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"Ultrasones have a unique break-in process; I have not owned the 900s, but I have owned the 750s, 650s, HFI780s, and 700s. They take 180 hours to break in. They will sound pretty good for the first 5 hours and then they will change. At some point the bass goes away and doesn't return until the breakin is complete. Along the way it will be crunchy, flat, awful. Just put them in a sock drawer with the Mexican rap station blaring a little louder than you'd find comfortable for 8 days. I also had the senn 280 - those take 400 hours before they sound good! Most people ditch them long before that, but when you do it right the detail opens up, the range becomes wider, and they become smoother. Go!"
facepalm
...I remembered that horrible looking PRO 2900 graph (even with compensation) I posted on the shoutbox yesterday :'(
Followed that up by looking at other people's graphs and found out that channel imbalances can reach as much as 7db on the Ultrasone Pro series.
So YEAH it's a burn-in thing, definitely. The drivers need to be burned in so much that they'll start to levitate, and the problems will be solved.
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Youve got to be kidding. Ultasones getting better? Really?
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Youve got to be kidding. Ultasones getting better? Really?
Haha, I was being sarcastic, note the levitating drivers inside the cups part.
They're like my guilty pleasure at the moment, since I only use them for listening to EDM sets, movies or gaming. When used with dolby headphone, they project this speaker-ish soundstage presentation that's no match to real speakers but adequate enough. I also absolutely agree that they sound like poo for music.
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Classic Head-fi. This guy walks into the Paradox thread and starts spewing nonsense with all kinds of technical claims.
Quote:Originally Posted by Magnetar (http://www.head-fi.org/img/forum/go_quote.gif) (http://www.head-fi.org/t/614134/is-it-true-that-modded-t50rps-specifically-lffs-paradox-mod-is-comparable-to-high-end-headphones-such-as-the-lcd2/75#post_8485093)
You can save money and time and get say an older pair of properly functioning STAX, say a pair of SR-5 and get higher quality sound then can be extracted from the Fostex phones.
Quote:Originally Posted by Magnetar (http://www.head-fi.org/img/forum/go_quote.gif) (http://www.head-fi.org/t/614134/is-it-true-that-modded-t50rps-specifically-lffs-paradox-mod-is-comparable-to-high-end-headphones-such-as-the-lcd2/90#post_8487138)
Of course there is preference. Your post is great example of the pot calling the kettle black. You have not heard my modified fostex or my SR5 yet you tell me "it's not supportable" to for me to say the STAX has better sound quality. I can tell you with 100 percent certainty I have heard both . The fostex driver has slower settling time that smears inner detail and dynamics. My ARTA measurements and ears are not lying. The "mods" do nothing to the driver. The fostex driver is not capable of resolving to the level of the electrostatic membrane. Even my electret Signet TK33's have superior sound and resolution over the fostex driver. As far as preference I can think of other dynamic drivers/phones I'd take over the fostex without hesitation and for less money and no mod needed.
Quote:Originally Posted by Magnetar (http://www.head-fi.org/img/forum/go_quote.gif) (http://www.head-fi.org/t/614134/is-it-true-that-modded-t50rps-specifically-lffs-paradox-mod-is-comparable-to-high-end-headphones-such-as-the-lcd2/90#post_8487337)
My mods were done over a multi stage process involving measuring with ARTA for spectral decay, frequency response, linear and non linear distortion. The drivers were also measured independently on a baffle, in the stock cups, modded earcups, three sets of custom earcups, on a baffle as a dipole and on a baffle with various back enclosures. The drivers are nothing special. PERIOD - The creative live with the bio driver measure better and sound better at 60 bucks without "mods" - I design and build custom one of a kind high efficiency speakers for people that will pay me for my experience, quality and ears. No DSP (paradox) is going to make an eagle out of a chicken.
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i wish he would post his measurements...
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This quote from HC about the new float is funny and exciting if your name is Muppetface. :)p14
It is neither a financial interest, nor advertising. It's all about information. The new JJ float QA is a very very good headphones. He has the clearest sound quality I've heard to date. Whether Stax, Audeze, Hifiman, Sennheiser, Beyer ...
The float has a better sound quality. And so it is important to point out. That's the only reason and the best ever.
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The new Float is going to be goddamn amazing, guys. It'll sound like real life and cure syphilis. :)p12
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"the only reason and the best ever" lol
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rendered gibberish is every post by guy that is software he's using translation two-bit is are.
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That michaelxray guy is great. He knows the designers and he waxes lyrical about these headphones, but when asked to name even one flaw, he says "still too early to say."
I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious and inept shill in my time at head-fi. That, or he's just an ingenious troll.
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"You know you're an audiophile when you start picking up details in random peoples conversations"
Next post:
"You know you're an audiophile a nosy eavesdropper when you start picking up details in random peoples conversations
FTFY."
Sridhar3 made the fix. Quite the brilliant fix...
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"Don't let the lack of explainable theory keep you stuck in the land of mid-fi."
... In the sound science forum :D
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IIRC Kiteki is a chick. But either way, they sure are a crazy motherf*****
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Lol, Kiteki is a guy. Sometimes...
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Kiteki is a guy.
I know people who have met him and his girlfriend in person.
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Kiteki is a crazy indonesian-australian, I think. Maybe connected to Mike from headfonia? :P
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From the most popular headphone blog in the Philippines :)p8 Blame packaging for hobbyists thinking that it's not worth double the price!
Take the LCD-3 headphone – looks identical in almost every way to the LCD-2 but sounds a whole lot better to many yet the conclusion is that it is not double the money better. My take on that is that the packaging and looks played a role in that subjective conclusion.
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I think I've got a winner, from Mike at HeadFonia:
"At the multi thousand dollars price bracket, there is no bad amplifiers".
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Is it the grammar or the logic?
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Is it the grammar or the logic?
A healthy combination of the two!
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I think I've got a winner, from Mike at HeadFonia:
"At the multi thousand dollars price bracket, there is no bad amplifiers".
Something we can agree about. It's actually more sad than funny.
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I think I've got a winner, from Mike at HeadFonia:
"At the multi thousand dollars price bracket, there is no bad amplifiers".
I hope that's a comment on the effects of placebo...
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Enough with the goddamn placebo already. (http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,499.0.html)
Get the names straight.
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oops
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From the most popular headphone blog in the Philippines :)p8 Blame packaging for hobbyists thinking that it's not worth double the price!
Take the LCD-3 headphone – looks identical in almost every way to the LCD-2 but sounds a whole lot better to many yet the conclusion is that it is not double the money better. My take on that is that the packaging and looks played a role in that subjective conclusion.
Specific link please :)p7
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From the most popular headphone blog in the Philippines :)p8 Blame packaging for hobbyists thinking that it's not worth double the price!
Take the LCD-3 headphone – looks identical in almost every way to the LCD-2 but sounds a whole lot better to many yet the conclusion is that it is not double the money better. My take on that is that the packaging and looks played a role in that subjective conclusion.
Specific link please :)p7
http://headfonics.com/2012/08/akg-k512-mkii-headphones/
Edit: I posted that comment before I was able to have yet another hour long audition session with an LCD-3 inside a quiet showroom. My impressions on it are now pretty certain. It's on the same level as an LCD-2, just of a different color. An HE6 with the proper set-up is more preferable to me by far. It really sounds bright IF used with the wrong amp or if it's underpowered.
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The link is the about the akg
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The link is the about the akg
I was criticizing the importance given to packaging and the saying that LCD3 is a lot better than the lcd2. Its there, please look for it first.
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hahaha yeah I got that but thought there was a better puchline LOL. So many people do want better packaging and would pay double just for that hehehe
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"Well I just got my hf3's and there's no way I'm keeping these. They are making the mids on my triplefi's seem super-recessed. :("
I don't like them because they make my other gear sound worse?
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Forgot about this one completely
Rotational velocidensity affects all audio files encoded with lossy compression. These include mp3, aac, and ogg.
The most notable effect of rotational velocidensity is the loss of bitrate in files. A lossy audio file will lose an average of 12kbps a year. But, this can vary greatly depending on the type of storage media used.
Examples:
SATA HDD: ~12kbps
IDE HDD: ~15kbps
SCSI HDD: ~7kbps
DVD: ~16kbps
CD-R/RW: >21kbps
This can be overcome by compressing audio using lossless formats such as FLAC, APE, or TTA. These formats are designed to never lose quality over time, and will sound the same right now as they will in 10 years.
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:)p13
Where's that one from?
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Hahaa, that's diamond. popcorn
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:-0
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Wow, where did he get those numbers from?
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And I thought the "Harleyfication" of digital audio was bad...that sounds like something "The Absolute Sound" would make up...
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Isn't that from 4chan and intentionally made as a misleading joke?
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This comment on Innerfidelity was pure facepalm :-0
The World of Audiophiles does not need more Pirates or biased users on Head Fi. Tell Purrin and Anaxilus to sit down and hush up.( the latter who is known to enjoy boasting about his own God like Audio knowledge to people on Head Fi ). Plotting and charting are just one part of the headphone buying process, nothing more than a tool, another piece to the puzzle and not to be solely relied opon. Don't call yourself an Audiophile if you are obsessed with graphs and measurements, call yourself a Snobophile. REAL audiophiles love all headphones and music, enjoy the experience of it all even if its bad. Listening to bad headphones is hilariously fun sometimes. Everyones ears are different, I wish Tyll would make a statement on Head Fi and say stop crying, stop complaining, stop bashing others for their preferences and definitely stop brandishing measurement qualities as the end all be all reason for buying a headphone. Enjoy the damn experience, enjoy the journey where ever it takes you. There is a serious problem in the audiophile world with bias and snobbish behavior. Grow up.
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I just had to look that up. Wow...
"Very clever, deleting all the other comments.
But anyway, I forgot this is a pirate forum, and you-all support pirates. i.e., thugs and criminals. That's what pirates are, boys and girls. Although I seriously doubt there are any girls here. So I'll leave you to your fantasy swashbuckling and I'll go back to the real world."
At least he still has a bit of humour. Just sometimes... (Yes this is from the same thread)
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Every member of this Pirates Forum needs a Devil's Fruit Ability.
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Kiteki is Swedish. Formerly residing in Melbourne, Australia.
He's now in Jakarta, Indonesia. No idea what he's doing there.
I've had the pleasure of meeting him quite a few times!!!
I.. have my reservations... about his character and mannerisms.. which I think I shall not disclose in the WWW. He is a very passionate man to say the least.
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Now lets head elsewhere!!
Me: *bitching about the strange lack of treble on the HeirAudio 8.A spite boasting a ultra-high freq driver at a very well known store. Maybe the ultra-highs are specifically tuned for bats.*
WillNotBeIdentified: No bro, I'm not sure about your pair and how long you've got them but I'm gonna let my pair burn in for a week at least. The cables need to burn in. And most importantly the CIEM crossover needs to be burned in. This is the most important step for the treble to shine through..
Me: *tries not to break down in tears*
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Forgot about this one completely
Rotational velocidensity affects all audio files encoded with lossy compression. These include mp3, aac, and ogg.
The most notable effect of rotational velocidensity is the loss of bitrate in files. A lossy audio file will lose an average of 12kbps a year. But, this can vary greatly depending on the type of storage media used.
Examples:
SATA HDD: ~12kbps
IDE HDD: ~15kbps
SCSI HDD: ~7kbps
DVD: ~16kbps
CD-R/RW: >21kbps
This can be overcome by compressing audio using lossless formats such as FLAC, APE, or TTA. These formats are designed to never lose quality over time, and will sound the same right now as they will in 10 years.
MIND = BLOWN
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What part of not being angry
Submitted by Jazz Casual on September 17, 2012 - 9:41pm.
"Which part of not being angry or upset did you not understand? Oh I see, that would be the angry part. It's nigh on impossible trying to have an intelligent conversation with you as you continue to distort what's being said.
So yes, please move on by all means."
(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i55/5/7/1/frabz-Im-not-mad-I-never-said-I-was-mad-What-makes-you-think-Im-mad-f601e0.jpg)
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I was picturing the exact same kind of meme! Haha nice one. :)p5
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So I bought a pair of Sennheiser hd598s (the cream colored ones in case you are wondering).
They work pretty well for my mixing and mastering endeavors, but when I went to record with them we experienced some obvious delay/lag when the track was played back with the vocal recording on top...i assume the same would happen with an instrument? Havnt tried that yet.
Is it because of the long cable cord? Is it the headphone itself? I believe this issue arose when attempting something with garage band. This was all some months back as my complicated life has taken me away from producing anything for a while.
A comment related to the PRO900
I got a bluedragon cable and it sorted out the treble, it was like shattering glass with the stock cable. I also taped over all the non essential holes under the pads to tighten up the treble a bit too.
Source: r/headphones on reddit. Not an unexpected result.
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From the most popular headphone blog in the Philippines :)p8 Blame packaging for hobbyists thinking that it's not worth double the price!
Take the LCD-3 headphone – looks identical in almost every way to the LCD-2 but sounds a whole lot better to many yet the conclusion is that it is not double the money better. My take on that is that the packaging and looks played a role in that subjective conclusion.
Nice one Jake - playing a role is not 100% as you well know but sure dont let me stop you in your quest for attention.
Simple fact is people look at the LCD-3 packaging and see an LCD-2 in a different color of wood without putting it on their head. Once they put it on their head, they may change their mind but I think personally a few might not instead wanting more value for their money.
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Lastly, I used a gold-plated 1/8 -> ¼ inch solid adapter for the Amperior and a silver one for the HD 25-1, and near the end of this review, I discovered that the gold plug had a warmer sound than the silver one, so that probably affected my impressions of the HD 25-1 slightly.
This quote comes from a 10,000+ word comparative review over at HF.
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Originally Posted by ....
Has anybody compared these (edited: LCD-3) or the lcd-2 to the heir audio 4ai?
Me:
Apples and oranges mate.
It'll be hard to give a correct comparison since it's like comparing a a pick-up truck with a Viper-engine to a Mazda MX-5,
Compare what? Their size? Their sound signature? Their sound staging/imaging properties? Their cost?
Originally Posted by ....
Their cost? I can see that myself. Their size? Lol. Their imaging? Do you know that headphones create a different imaging from iems, due to the fact that they cover the whole ear lobe?
Me:
Then what are you wondering? :)
Kind of hard to compare an aprox 400 USD balanced armature IEM to 1000-1950 USD full-size planar magnetics.
Thanks for the explanation regarding sound staging. I wasn't aware of that. Must have missed it during my residency in audiology.
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Maybe not that funny. But I still have no clue what kind of answer the bloke was seeking...
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Had a slightly humorous audio encounter at my house a couple of weeks ago. I had some friends over, and one of them is a DJ who admits he has hearing damage from years of working on the airstrip at SFO.
Andy: Hey, let me listen to dubstep on your headphones
Me: Okay, these LCD2s are probably the best for those.
He puts on the headphones, then opens up YouTube to find his dubstep songs facepalm
Andy: No offense, but these sound exactly like my Samsung Galaxy headphones.
Me: Really? Samsung has headphones out?
Andy: Yeah man, they came with my Galaxy S3 phone... facepalm
Me: The earbuds? Wow, those must be nice.
Andy: Yes they are -- even better than these LCD2s actually. These LCD2s have mids and highs, but they don't have any bass.
Me: Your earbuds have more bass than these LCD2s?
Andy: Way more. facepalm
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This tickled me .....
But knowing the 770s are for sure flat and hearing the 380s were 'colored', I remembered my mission was to get flat phones. So I dont want to go way down to ted browns for the 940s if they arent true flat like the 770s?
At last, a true reference.
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a humorous animation...
http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html (http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html)
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The Bassheads are attacking!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhgnMX73Pw
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a humorous animation...
http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html (http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html)
"before you kill yourself, could you validate my parking?"
Oh man that really killed me
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Here's an old one:
Since I have heard 1 million Dolar system , my ears became platinum ears , even better than
My previous golden ears.
I do not know what you are talking about , but I know your golden ears can not notice your
Sr 007 mk 2 was defect.
I suggest you to go to ENT Doctor to check your hearing.
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a humorous animation...
http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html (http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html)
I finally got around to watching this. Awesome!
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a humorous animation...
http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html (http://fliiby.com/file/889628/p1jfpnchql.html)
Reminds me of this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-M0Vs4WauE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9UbEVpIeYA
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Quote:Originally Posted by simonwellander
I Have a setup with the Audioengine 2 and they sounds increadible! They need about 400 hours break in period (start to sound good after maybe 40 hours). And they really need a good position! Very important for these speakers! Andhe speaker wire in the back needs to be angled toward the center between the speakers for a improved soundstage and dynamic (don't ask me how it works). And you can try to reverse the polarity of the power chord (here i found about it: http://www.head-fi.org/t/503389/audioengine-a2-eq-settings#post_6800326)
Source:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571760/audioengine-2-not-what-i-expected/15#post_7930706
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Wow! I'm several years late to the party but this was a pretty entertaining thread! I've mentioned before that I know next to nothing about audio - I just happen to like what I like.
One of the most memorable lines that I can remember is someone describing the sound of (I forgot which DAC/AMP/HP) and mentioned that it sounded like "tinkerbell masturbating."
TOTALLY made me wanna call Chris Hansen from Dateline :gross:
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Reminds me of this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-M0Vs4WauE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9UbEVpIeYA
BEAR PHAT and Crisco, hahaha
Tupak and Biggie texted me from the grave .......hahahaha
Guess plugins make eveerything best.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aqsw View Post
What a stupid thread. Implementation is everything. D S is usually smaller and cheaper. Properly implemented they are as good , if not better. If you think technology regresses, you may disagree with me.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/319569/r2r-vs-s-d-dacs/15#post_11869628
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I have a pair of Audio Technica W1000s, and I really hate them. I laughed out loud when I read this in a review on HF:
"Cons: A positively awful tonal balance, criminally bass shy and overemphasised mids make them sound like a megaphone"
http://www.head-fi.org/products/audio-technica-ath-w1000-headphones
So funny, and so true! I bought these after reading a glowing 6moons review of them. Never again.
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Heh, this is courtesy of Griffon at a meet up in Canada a couple of months ago... He has a way with words.
"Let me just say this... there is shit... and then there is [insert name of terrible headphones here]"
There may also have been a comment about something with a very flat response involving Emma Watson...
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This quote just came in from the shoutbox.
"takato14: Guys. Help. The HD700 sounds fantastic now."
He must have done some serious Victor Frankenstein shit to that headphone as if he was Mary Shelley.