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Lobby => Soapbox => Topic started by: madaboutaudio on July 30, 2015, 10:49:16 PM

Title: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: madaboutaudio on July 30, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/even-vegas-strangers-agree-340-audiophile-cables-make-no-difference/

Some things to note:
Not mention of DAC/AMP. Presume to be Onboard Dell/Apple soundcard (Realtek most likely)
Windows Media Player (Directsound) and/or (Itunes?)
Grado RS2e (yikes)


They are right. Audiophile Ethernet cables don't matter given the shit ass audio gear they used.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Claritas on July 30, 2015, 11:06:50 PM
Will you cut this shit out already?
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: aive on July 31, 2015, 12:51:36 AM
I fkn love people harping on about cables especially cables for digital signals....  :boom:

Don't forget to specify to your supply authority and home electrician what cables to install to your property and in your outlet wiring.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: audiofrk on July 31, 2015, 02:08:58 AM
I reserve the right to let my ears say whats what.  I thought audio usb cables were pointless till I heard a good a/b with one of course that was in my early days, days of audeze love and hugo envy, but I never heard it again.


it was a normal usb with a ferrite attached, it helped.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: DaveBSC on July 31, 2015, 03:56:45 AM
I reserve the right to let my ears say whats what.  I thought audio usb cables were pointless till I heard a good a/b with one of course that was in my early days, days of audeze love and hugo envy, but I never heard it again.


it was a normal usb with a ferrite attached, it helped.

USB is quite different than Ethernet. Isochronus mode USB has no error correction ability, and there's the Vbus/Ground lines that can negatively impact USB DACs. Some people have reported improvements simply by putting a piece of tape over the power leg pins on the USB connector. Ethernet doesn't send any power, and it's error correcting. Beyond using a shielded cable, I'm really struggling to understand why spending a lot of money on an Ethernet cable makes any sense.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Armaegis on July 31, 2015, 04:29:31 AM
I'd spend a few extra bucks if I knew the cables were properly meeting spec, but carbon fiber unicorn schlongs jacking themselves into my ports is money poorly spent.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Anaxilus on July 31, 2015, 05:09:20 AM
I'd spend a few extra bucks if I knew the cables were properly meeting spec, but carbon fiber unicorn schlongs jacking themselves into my ports is money poorly spent.

You've never experienced a carbon fiber schlong apparently. To get real insight you should pm OJNeg.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Armaegis on July 31, 2015, 05:15:39 AM
You've never experienced a carbon fiber schlong apparently. To get real insight you should pm OJNeg.

OJ's schlong is a "must have" experience I assume?
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: lm4der on July 31, 2015, 05:46:19 AM
OJ's schlong is a "must have" experience I assume?

Magic schlong
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: n3rdling on July 31, 2015, 06:30:35 AM
I got the magic schlong
I know if I can hit once, I can hit twice
I hit the baddest chicks
Shorty don't believe me, then come with me tonight
And I'll show you magic
(What? What?) Magic (uh huh uh huh)
I got the magic schlong
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Azteca X on July 31, 2015, 02:34:28 PM
I'd spend a few extra bucks if I knew the cables were properly meeting spec

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/data-cables/index.htm
Comes with a test report.
If you wanna read how others fare: https://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/is-your-cat6-a-dog.htm

Still, generally overkill when we're talking about short runs at home with 30 megabyte audio files.


Also:
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2015/02/measurements-ethernet-cables-and-audio.html
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2015/02/measurements-intercontinental-internet.html

Not saying it's bulletproof, not saying you didn't hear anything...but Audioquest make some pretty extraordinary claims. I just happen to believe that, like most digital cables, if there is a difference it is very small and that I am not willing to pay for said small difference.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: Armaegis on July 31, 2015, 04:03:16 PM
Yeah those blue jeans articles were specifically what I was thinking about.
Title: Re: Arstechnica AudioQuest Ethernet Cable Article
Post by: audiofrk on July 31, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
USB is quite different than Ethernet. Isochronus mode USB has no error correction ability, and there's the Vbus/Ground lines that can negatively impact USB DACs. Some people have reported improvements simply by putting a piece of tape over the power leg pins on the USB connector. Ethernet doesn't send any power, and it's error correcting. Beyond using a shielded cable, I'm really struggling to understand why spending a lot of money on an Ethernet cable makes any sense.

WHY YOU ALWAYS GOT TO BE CORRECTING ME!!!

Nah just joking thanks  for the info, changstar wouldn't be the same without you dave