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Title: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: shipsupt on November 19, 2012, 12:27:31 AM
Just sharing an article I enjoyed...

http://www.stereophile.com/content/deflavorizing-machine#.UKk7oIBwOME.twitter (http://www.stereophile.com/content/deflavorizing-machine#.UKk7oIBwOME.twitter)
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: wilzc on November 19, 2012, 03:00:11 AM
One of the more interesting articles Steve has written in recent times.

But then again that was written about 8 months ago....
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: CEE TEE on November 19, 2012, 03:04:33 AM
Saw Booker T. 4-6 years back and I actually thought that in person it was pretty lifeless, unfortunately. 


But I do like letting the best jazz take win, with small flaws intact...
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: Tari on November 19, 2012, 03:35:12 AM


Next time on "the only things I say that are remotely true were already obvious to everyone else long before I had my epiphany" - Steve interviews industry insiders in the film industry and discovers that all the older films were colorless compared to newer films. 


Seriously, this guy is the Skip Bayless of audiophila. 


[shipsupt - don't want to rain on your parade or anything, I know you got enjoyment out of this.  SG's relentless prostelytizing and complete reductionism of others has just finally gotten my goat.]
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: shipsupt on November 19, 2012, 03:41:47 AM
I was easily able to pass over the Steve's editorializing and focus on the commentary from  Steve Jordan and Gabe Roth... but that's just me.

Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: DaveBSC on November 19, 2012, 04:21:53 AM
Unlike most of SG's articles which are little more than click-bait, this isn't pure idiocy for the sole purpose of stirring up a reaction. It is however, completely obvious and something that's already been stated over and over. Modern recording sucks. Hyper compression sucks. We know that.

"The ocean is wet." - Steve Guttenberg.
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: ultrabike on November 19, 2012, 06:15:10 AM
To me the article started to sound like it was going down the path of "analog is great and digital sucks 'cuz that's how it sounds to my ears." But then it seems things changed towards the overuse of Pro Tools and similar, which seems more plausible to me.

It's a relatively old article, but this more recent one seems to play a similar tune: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57536271-47/the-perfect-sound-myth/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57536271-47/the-perfect-sound-myth/)

That said, towards the end of "The perfect-sound myth" article, he links his "Accuracy Is Not the Answer" article at Stereophile, and says he covers the issue in greater detail there. I disagree. His "Accuracy..." Stereophile article seemed more like a classical "analog is great and digital sucks..." kind of deal.

Maybe this is good. Maybe SG is acknowledging that the way many recordings and remasters are done is a "limiting factor" as he puts it...
Title: Re: The Deflavorizing Machine
Post by: Deep Funk on November 19, 2012, 08:49:31 AM
I'll skip the article then...