I caved and bought a pair of Sierra 2 speakers when massdrop was hosting them. I was really close to pulling the trigger on a pair of LS50 after hearing them 3-4 times at shows and demos at my local dealer. I'll let you know what I think of the two in comparison when I get the Sierra 2s.
Wanna buy both and compare them for us? ;DRight now my entire computer speaker system cost less than buying a set of 'computer speakers', even with the $25 tweeter up grade… hahahahahaha
Those two would be my picks as well, if I had the money to buy them, space to put them, and time to listen to them.
snipIt seems that the Philharmonitor is a 'joint venture' with
I have a feeling though that the Philharmonitor might be the best bang for the buck though.
Awesome "bookshelf" speakers for under $1000
1. Start up computer
2. Google "Used Mackie HR824"
3. Find pair in good condition for $500
4. Buy them
5. ENJOY! :)p1
Used Mini Genelecs :wheel:
The Vapor Breeze would be close to that price category. I went with the Fritz 5 SE because it I needed a smaller cabinet for my workstation. No Rag yet though
I have a feeling though that the Philharmonitor might be the best bang for the buck though.
Awesome "bookshelf" speakers for under $1000
1. Start up computer
2. Google "Used Mackie HR824"
Mackie's are indeed active monitors which will not use the power of the one Rag. However, to me it seems like an excelent recommendation, coming from someone with ample experiense. Dunno what makes it's internal amplification low grade, or in what ways Neumann > Mackie.
They say that smaller Genelecs sound as good as the bigger ones, bass is rolled of earlier.
Genelec say so. They say that the entire range has the same sound signature, making it possible, for instance, to replace one of a pair, and still have a matched pair. The difference between models is in how low they go and how loud they go.
Oh BTW, JBL LSR308 is amaze-balls. Destroys any equivalently priced monitor from Yamaha, KRK and the likes. I wouldn't be surprised if it took down some opposition in the 4 figures either.
Definitely not a "mini" monitor though
Does anyone have an opinion on the Focal Solo/Twin 6?
I'm looking to get a nice pair of studio monitors with the intent of using them to improve (or flat out fix) the EQ on my needledrops of old/poorly mastered latin recordings.
My room is pretty small; the speakers will be up against a wall with the opposite wall about 9 ft away and my seating distance will be about 4ft from the speakers. I live in a condo so performance/resolution at moderate volume is important to me.
Ordered a pair of Opals + stands from a Canadian distributor. My room is completely untreated (and small :/) so I guess step one is to figure out how bad it is and then order up appropriate acoustic treatments. Looking forward to it! I've been using some Boston Acoustics computer monitors from circa 2003 as my speaker setup in this room so this will be just a weeeeeeee step up :)p13
Obviously the output is going to be colored by your playback system; still I think you can get a pretty decent picture of how the various monitors sound. Very cool.
Yeah, I don't really see how I am supposed to evaluate the synth and mostly electronic instruments that dominate the track... How is it supposed to sound? It's not like there is a reference or anything...
Would have strongly preferred something acoustic. Still, I think it's a pretty cool resource.
Have to say, compared to those, the comparable Tannoys, Genelecs, Mackies, KRKs, etc., the Adams A7x crushed all of them in almost every way using their setup..
I didn't even think the other speakers were remotely up to par with my HD800 rig tbh. The Adams were and then some. Definitely worth the money to me.
the Adams also have the amp!
A7x could be better, but A3x and A5x sound almost the same to me, minus bass ofcourse.
For Yggy (Gumby?) level dac i'd go for something more resolving than A series Adam. Still they are much better than entry level Mackies, thus imo better value.
Any stand recommendations from people here? I'm considering Isoacoustics stands at the moment.
It is better.
What's more resolving than the A7x for the same money? I haven't heard it yet.
Today I got to try out the LS50s at Park Avenue Audio.
600 sq ft room
Some sort of Elektra cd player > McIntosh D100 > Classe SIGMA-AMP2 > LS50
I thought that while the setup was good, it wasn't amazing considering the cost of the whole setup. It was my first time hearing any of these components, so it's hard to said what contributed to what. Plus, I was unfamiliar with all the music that was played except for Dire Strait's "Once Upon a Time in the West". I found that the LS50s had pretty good imaging and soundstaging inside the room. Treble wasn't as bright as some reviews make them out to be. Bass was kind of boomy for some reason. It had extension, but wasn't as tight as i'd hope. Dynamics were overall very good. Does anyone share my experience? Anyone tried the D100 or Classe amp before?
Hopefully I can try them again some other time with some familiar music and my own amp/dac if I can bring it in sometime. Maybe I'm just really used to the qualities that the Yggy brings to speakers and thus didn't find the LS50 setup overall amazing even though everything was pricier.
Went to Guitar Center a week ago to audition the JBL 308 versus the Yamaha HS8. Was surprised I actually found the HS8 having clearer treble (but hollow midrange) than the JBLs and wasn't sure if the 308 was actually better than the 305 except for the bottom end, kinda different. Have to say, compared to those, the comparable Tannoys, Genelecs, Mackies, KRKs, etc., the Adams A7x crushed all of them in almost every way using their setup. Of course their price ended up being crushing too relatively speaking. I didn't really bother with the 5" stuff there other than cursory confirmation I didn't want any of it. The only real drawback was their hard L/R imaging but they were also setup up the furthest apart on the demo shelf as well.
I didn't even think the other speakers were remotely up to par with my HD800 rig tbh. The Adams were and then some. Definitely worth the money to me.
Caveat-I'd need to hear them at home to make sure no weird retailer/demo funny stuff is going on. I really though the JBLs should have sounded better than they did. Definitely not M2s.
Any stand recommendations from people here? I'm considering Isoacoustics stands at the moment.
Any stand recommendations from people here? I'm considering Isoacoustics stands at the moment.I've been using Isoacoustics with my LS50s and a speaker set before. They probably don't work anywhere near as well as speaker stands, but they make a significant difference where the bass doesn't reverb through what you set it on, which clears up the mids as well (something about the bass overpowering or canceling things out).
I highly recommend getting even a cheap set of studio monitor stands, they make a world of difference. Table reflections usually create a nasty mid suckout. Some studio monitors are actually tuned to compensate for mixing desk reflections, too bad they never advertise which ones.
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I've been using Isoacoustics with my LS50s and a speaker set before. They probably don't work anywhere near as well as speaker stands ...
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I highly recommend getting even a cheap set of studio monitor stands, they make a world of difference. Table reflections usually create a nasty mid suckout. Some studio monitors are actually tuned to compensate for mixing desk reflections, too bad they never advertise which ones.
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Pfft, cinderblocks? I used phone books, binders and candy tins :)p13(click to show/hide)
What pads are those on your HE-6?
Looks like some people agitate for an LS50 active edition, probably named LS 55 or something similar actually:
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/09/think-about-the-future-an-active-kef-ls50-loudspeaker/ (http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/09/think-about-the-future-an-active-kef-ls50-loudspeaker/)
Interesting product if it ever comes to life: cheaper than a good amp and passive speakers, optimized amp, and less real estate taken on the desk.
In the meanwhile I have been eyeing the coaxial offerings from equator audio - did any of the Pirates try them?
http://www.equatoraudio.com/ (http://www.equatoraudio.com/)
They received accolades from the recording industry for their affordable and innovative D5. The man behind the company, Ted Keffalo, is a veteran in this domain with excellent track of innovative and quality products. Most products on the site are out of stock though- think they may be up to something- either strong demand of their wares or announcing new versions.
For people looking for desktop speakers, https://www.massdrop.com/home (https://www.massdrop.com/home) has a good deal on Adam F7. At less than half the price of A7x and very close behind in quality they may be a great choice.