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Lobby => Headphone Measurements => Topic started by: keanex on September 17, 2015, 12:16:12 AM

Title: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: keanex on September 17, 2015, 12:16:12 AM
Hey guys, got a Veritas from Vibro Labs and I'm planning on measuring some IEMs in the upcoming future. I have Arta but I need a capture card as I doubt onboard is going to do, definitely a budget option, was looking at the Scarlet stuff. Also any relevant tips would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: OJneg on September 17, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Hey guys, got a Veritas from Vibro Labs and I'm planning on measuring some IEMs in the upcoming future. I have Arta but I need a capture card as I doubt onboard is going to do, definitely a budget option, was looking at the Scarlet stuff. Also any relevant tips would be appreciated.

I'll send you my Asus soundcard that's a decent performer. Just pay the shipping.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: Marvey on September 17, 2015, 03:41:52 AM
Hey guys, got a Veritas from Vibro Labs and I'm planning on measuring some IEMs in the upcoming future. I have Arta but I need a capture card as I doubt onboard is going to do, definitely a budget option, was looking at the Scarlet stuff. Also any relevant tips would be appreciated.

Do you have a microphone jack? The errors in linear and non-linear distortion for transducers are a magnitude or two or three greater than those of built-in microphone jacks. This is another option in case you are working with a laptop: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F7120TQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage&linkCode=sl1&tag=yoac34bianbo3-20&linkId=0c074943b7d19f4af47387c20dfd60db (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F7120TQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage&linkCode=sl1&tag=yoac34bianbo3-20&linkId=0c074943b7d19f4af47387c20dfd60db)
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: keanex on September 17, 2015, 12:03:32 PM
Thanks for the offer oj, I'll shoot you a message at some point today after class.

Marvey, looks like I'm handled on the capture device, do you have any advice for consistency in measuring iems or any advice in measuring in general? I'd ideally like to build a database like Tyll, but for iems so people can use it as a comparison point.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: money4me247 on September 17, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
Hey guys, got a Veritas from Vibro Labs and I'm planning on measuring some IEMs in the upcoming future. I have Arta but I need a capture card as I doubt onboard is going to do, definitely a budget option, was looking at the Scarlet stuff. Also any relevant tips would be appreciated.

would love to hear how your experience goes! this is something I am also interested in pursuing :)

edit: also read that the veritas seems to be pretty consistent across the board of users trying it out.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: MuZo2 on September 17, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
edit: also read that the veritas seems to be pretty consistent across the board of users trying it out.

I think they should ship external soundcard with it to keep it consistent.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: keanex on September 17, 2015, 03:46:32 PM
That would introduce a bunch of other complaints, we know that's true.

Edit: He does have a cheap USB driven sound card that he can recommends with it.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: Kunlun on September 17, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
While we're in the topic, I have a question. Would pyrates who do iem measurements please explain more about why iem measurements over 10khz are unreliable? It's seems like something useful and interesting to know, thanks.
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: MuZo2 on September 18, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
I think mic capsules used in measurement rigs are flat till 10k
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: keanex on September 18, 2015, 10:48:45 AM
I had not known that they were unreliable over 10k but that makes so much sense now
Title: Re: Going to start measuring IEMs
Post by: OJneg on September 18, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
I think mic capsules used in measurement rigs are flat till 10k

I think it has more to do with measuring inside a enclosed tube where size of tube is on the same order as the wavelength of sound at 10k. Causes peaks and nulls accordingly. These Panasonic capsule mics don't have great bandwidth but IME they get past 10k without such problems.