CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Lobby => The Meeting Place => Topic started by: Marvey on August 11, 2014, 02:36:39 AM
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2014 Woodland Hills Meet - For Purple Goat - HE-6 measurements. HE-6 focus pads felt mod no cotton vs. HE-6 focus A pads.
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This is "BS", all pads sound the same!! ;)
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This is the part where BS says a 3dB shift at 3-4k is inaudible facepalm
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Thanks so much! It was great meeting you. BTW, for anyone curious: this is with the felt mod, no cotton but stock grills, and stock cable. Also the production pad is orange, pre is green.
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Do you think the HE-6 sounds better with the felt mod? By the way, is it Jerg's backwave felt damping or something else?
Asking about subjective impressions of sound because there seems to be a more severe dip at 2khz now compared to Marv's earlier stock measurements. Does it sound warm now?
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Do you think the HE-6 sounds better with the felt mod? By the way, is it Jerg's backwave felt damping or something else?
Asking about subjective impressions of sound because there seems to be a more severe dip at 2khz now compared to Marv's earlier stock measurements. Does it sound warm now?
Yup, that is Jerg's felt mod.
I'm waiting for Marv and Ultrabike to post measurements of my HE-6 with slightly different mods.
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It's just Jerg's Fuzzor mod. I think it cleaned the sound up a bit made it slightly less ringy. It was a hard one for me to compare.
I'm looking forward to ohhgourami's HE-6 measurements, he feels using soft felt instead of stiff felt makes a large difference and he may very well be right. I don't think it sounds warm.
To answer your question directly, however, I did take the felt mod off once and I immediately felt it regressed but it was hard to put my finger on why. I'm hoping the soft felt version is without compromise.
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Yup, that is Jerg's felt mod.
I'm waiting for Marv and Ultrabike to post measurements of my HE-6 with slightly different mods.
Here are the before and after measurements of Ohh's HE-6 (the before is from the SD meet, and the after is from this recent LA meet). Right channel.
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1717.0;attach=7256;image)
Going by memory I thought it sounded better this time.
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I thought they sounded better at the Pirate's meet (May). They sounded bright and forward this time :(
Plus channels were messed up :)p8 (which could explain why the sound-stage was so forward).
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BTW. i don't think these measurements are accurate / comparable to other graphs on site. Too much background noise which I think in averaging mode on ARTA maybe pushed down the treble a bit. The two here are comparable relative to each other though.
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Good call
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Marv, I still want to see the measurements from mine even though they aren't accurate with the other graphs on this site. purplegoat and I just want a direct comparison of both of our HE-6s since we were both in the same room at the same time. Actually, mostly because purplegoat has been nagging me for them. walk the plank2
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Yourz is bettar!
:)p13
Actually one day, if you can care to post your mods. No idea what you did.
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Thanks for posting that one. I guess it's time for Vegans.
Jason's mods are Vegans with sticky stuff (no HFM plastic ring), hardwired copper stranded cable, fuzzor mod but with soft adhesive back felt (not stiff adhesive back felt), and grill mod with cotton removed. Got the memorized at this point. p;)
I was thinking about selling the HE-6 but now seeing this graph I figure I should just get the vegans and do the fuzzor mod with soft felt. My big issue was the dip at 5k but Jason has fixed that.
And for those keeping score, ohhgourami's HE-6 in red:
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q61/the_purple_goat/jasonHE6.jpg)
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Very strange. Ultrabike measured a peak at 10kHz. Is that why you mean by the room pushing the treble down a bit?
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yes. The treble got rolled on the measurement significantly. you might have the HE-6 with the smoothest / less peaky treble - and it sounds that way to me too. I do not like stock HE-6s at all.
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I guess I'll leave them alone for longer. Purplegoat criticizes the FR on mine as there's a decline in the treble overall. He's looking for a 6kHz and 10kHz peak. He felt mine sounded very laid back compared to Anax's HD800.
The mods I did:
- jerg's felt mod
- jerg's grill mod
- Audeze Vegan pad
- hardwire
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That's the reason I like yours. As you know, my preference is "not bright".
What is the jerg felt mod? (sorry, I'm am lazy)
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Yup, I know your preference. I was actually aiming to get as close as I could to the stock FR, but the Vegan pads ended up taking away a pretty high peak somewhere which smoothed it enough of you non-bright lovers. Soundstage, imaging, and spacial realism greatly improved as well as comfort and bass impact.
This is the felt mod: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1154.msg33231.html#msg33231
Jerg used a stiff felt while I used a thinner soft felt.
I just confirmed that my headphone was out of phase during the meet. :'( It doesn't sound wonky anymore and has a more direct sound. :)p1
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I don't criticize the sound for the tamed treble, I think the HE-6 is bright to a fault. I felt your HE-6 pulled me into the sound at an odd place, it might have just been because they were out of phase. I think you have the best HE-6 so far, but maybe it's just not the right headphone for me. That said, if there is supposed to be air and yours don't have it that would be an error IMO even if it's less pleasurable, but I couldn't hear well enough at the meet and I don't know well enough in general to make that assessment.
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The odd place stuff was definitely because it was out of phase. And I thought it was your source or amp.