CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Lobby => Headphone Measurements => Topic started by: Marvey on December 08, 2011, 05:43:16 AM
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Weights of various headphones
Using proprietary measurement methods and equipment I developed when I was interning at NASA's Ames Research center in the 80s. Includes simulated downward force of cables. (LOL, I actually weight part - but not all - of the cable to simulate their weight hanging down.)
08.4oz Sennheiser HD558
10.3oz Fischer FA-011
11.0oz Sennheiser HD700
13.2oz Audio Technica W3000ANV (with wings!)
14.3oz Beyer T1
14.5oz Sennheiser HD800 (they implement anti-grav technology to make it seem lighter)
19.6oz Audeze LCD2r2
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Dude....come on.....
Where is my engineering contribution in figuring out how to exactly simulate the downward force of those cables? As you know...there was a lot of math and testing involved before we agreed which method was better. A lot of those theories and problems came directly from my acoustic research with skunkworks.
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Your methods were not validated by a Macedonian Hero's Sigma 6 process for consistency and reliability.
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Your methods were not validated by a Macedonian Hero's Sigma 6 process for consistency and reliability.
Neither were yours!....Wait....isn't that a good thing? :P
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Tbh, this is an interesting yet useless metric. Both interesting and useless because it presents an incomplete picture. What needs to TBD is the PSI or more accurately OSI (ounces per square inch or grams per centimeter) as distributed along the band and relevant support pieces. Likely the source for the HD800 and Paradox anti grav abilities. You could go further to calculate the polar moment of inertia in a Z-axis should you often go running w/ the HD800. I know I do. While thinking of rythmdevil's GF.
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I agree. This should be measured on the dummy head, so the force at the contact area over the ears and the head is determined. However to determine comfort, we'd need to know skin specific pressure sensitivity at the contact areas... walk the plank 2 ;)
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The dummy head will need to wear wigs of differing lengths.
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:)p2 I'll pitch in for a cadaver. And I'm sure we could get a deal on it too as we'll only be buying the head which cuts down on the total organ cost. :)p1
I'm interested in the current setup. purrin, would you take a picture of a pair of cans sitting on the head and post it up?
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So , I guess if you don't have a "WWE" neck you should probably think about using a neck brace if you're going to use your LCD2's for long sessions.
I know the HiFiman HE-6 have to be up there in weight. (I should try the neck brace idea w/ them, I guess. Nah !!!, Fang(sp?) really needs to address this)
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238g Sennheiser HD558
292g Fischer FA-011
312g Sennheiser HD700
374g Audio Technica W3000ANV (with wings!)
405g Beyer T1
411g Sennheiser HD800 (they implement anti-grav technology to make it seem lighter)
556g Audeze LCD2r2
There, I fixed it for you!
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Bah,
featherweights all. We must have a contest to see who wears the heaviest LP the longest. My max so far with the LCD-XC has been 3 hours.
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they implement anti-grav technology to make it seem lighter
Audio-technica lead with the anti-gravity technology, some of their headphones having wings.
I can vouch for the fact that they work. Had had to tie myself to the chair a couple of times.
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(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r798/wroevl/sl2_zpse0960e4c.jpg)
Sony,11g. Feels like air. However the sound is nothing to write home about. Bought them to use with an electrical violin, but in practice I always use the Porta Pro for that.
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Bah,
featherweights all. We must have a contest to see who wears the heaviest LP the longest. My max so far with the LCD-XC has been 3 hours.
Stax 4070
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/a/a7/a75354b8_vbattach14164.jpg)
625g (w/ cable) x 12 hours. My head doubles as a very sturdy headphone stand - that's its best feature, actually.
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Bah,
featherweights all. We must have a contest to see who wears the heaviest LP the longest. My max so far with the LCD-XC has been 3 hours.
Stax 4070
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/a/a7/a75354b8_vbattach14164.jpg)
625g (w/ cable) x 12 hours. My head doubles as a very sturdy headphone stand - that's its best feature, actually.
Oh wow, you the man. Ok, this weekend is iron neck challenge time :)
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If I'm in the midst of a videogame binge I'll keep playing even if my hair's on fire. Those 12 hours fly right by.
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Anetode, are the cups in the picture custom made?
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Factory-made. Stax started the 4070s as a line of closed Lambdas after a request from some company for closed monitor headphones. They sold them for a few years, but there was never a high demand for the model. They discontinued the 4070s after the x07s came out.
http://wiki.faust3d.com/wiki/index.php?title=Stax_4070
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If I'm in the midst of a videogame binge I'll keep playing even if my hair's on fire. Those 12 hours fly right by.
But then, when you stand up, you find that your body has permanently assumed the "seated hunch" position, and all attempts to modify posture are met with pure pain.
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Able to push the listening session to about 4 hours before kids and a sore behind make me give up. This with the HD 800.
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Koss ESP-6 Electrostatic headphones are 766 gram without the cable and nearly 2 lb with the cable.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXWQL5kqNnY/UqZevfDsB3I/AAAAAAAAGpQ/BweRO1aU-nQ/s1600/blogKoss_ESP6_ESP9.jpg)
8000 dollar Final Audio Muramasa VIII only bought by the most pain enduring audiophiles clocks in at 850 gram.
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/c/c7/c7a29ecd_fi_stainless_2_big.jpeg)
Heaviest headphones ever made?
I know some vintage headphones even bulkier, but I'm not sure about weight.