Oh my this is going to get ugly on July 4th. The U.S. is such an easy target.
Oh my this is going to get ugly on July 4th. The U.S. is such an easy target.
That's okay. The 14th will come soon enough. Oui Oui!!
That's okay. The 14th will come soon enough. Oui Oui!!I knew I didn't have to remind you ;)
OJ, just showed these to my wife. Great post man. We are both laughing our asses off. The escalator says it all.Seems like we're next, yeah. Have fun guys :)
France is up next then?
Umarica. Fuck yeah!
I knew I didn't have to remind you ;)
France is up next then?
Umarica. Fuck yeah!
Holy cow... .. why did you do that mistake. ? facepalmOh come on, we can play with the teddy bear, right ?
This is his other French cousin. American bears can keep the woods and salmon. French bears feed Cola to the sun.
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How very Louis XIV.
So I'm like the Stig of audio now?
http://imgur.com/gallery/H2Vx4Oh yeah that looks like the perfect match !
Napoleon was Corsican fyi.
So are we getting started early on France then? popcorn
Corsica is part of France. Vive la France!
I thought we already started through the medium of bears...
I'm confused Anax, do you consider the founding fathers as British citizens ?
By the way, Bonaparte was born in France, while Hitler was born in Austria, historically....
The French dream bigger.
From this thread, they must be dreaming. Or hallucinating. :P
Actually crowning oneself Emperor and destroying the Republic seems to be a shattered dream if I recall Beethoven's reaction. One could say the US has headed down that path the last 6-7 years... :vomit:
ROFL. Anax, you were implying Bonaparte wasn't anymore french than Hitler was german.. So I'm just asking whether the logic applies to all.
Koth, Bonaparte was born in august, while the battle that sealed the deal with France was in May.
The worst part is that you are right. There was the Monroe doctrine. Then South-America became the back yard of the U.S every once and a while and since president Wilson the U.S. has intervened many more times around the globe. After 1948, the year of Israel and the set-up of the petrol-dollar system the U.S. president has become increasingly powerful.
I find it amazing that only Nixon left for his acts. Fast forward to the last fifteen years. Things have changed a lot.
By the way the French presidents still have emperor characteristics. Each French president has to leave a massive monument, it does not matter how silly for it is French culture.
Umm, the US President is still elected (to a degree). We were talking about Emperors and Kings which now becomes a discussion about Imperialism and colonialism? Aren't you Dutch who sold the white people here every black slave in American history? You are right though, Napoleon promised hope and change. That went well. We never had a Committee for Public Safety either, but that appears to be our future with Osamacare.
I think I've had enough off topic shoutbox tangential stream of consciousness for one evening. Nite.
Ethnicity is a human construction? So is DNA I suppose. Give me a break.
FWIW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group
An ethnic group or ethnicity is a socially defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience.
See bolded. Denotes actual biological lineage per DNA. You would have to go back 350,000-500,000 years to possibly find a common ancestor to say that ethnic heritage is just a social construct.
Not quite that far...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
So if Charles De Gaul was born in Mexico, he would have been Mexican and not French?
I've always understood nationality to be something they stamp on your passport. A legal category you are assigned based on where you have naturalized. Ethnicities can exist within any given nation (for example, Russia, China, any Mid-east country will have a thousand different ethnic groups). If you are born in a Hispanic family in America where you speak Spanish to all your relatives, friends, classmates and you eat burritos and horchata everyday and wave the Mexican flag in front of your house....... are you Mexican or American? Depends on who you ask I guess. This doesn't get into cultural attitudes which I find to be separate from both nationality and ethnicity. Ask someone who has cousins back in their mother country about how they are. Same ethnic DNA, traditions, etc. but very different behavior/attitudes based on a myriad of factors pertaining to just existing in a different environment.
Ethnicity is a human construction? So is DNA I suppose. Give me a break.
No, Venn diagrams are unnecessary. I understand what you are saying. Race is not a requirement for ethnicity.
http://themadmanchronicles.com/2014/02/08/black-man-proves-adam-and-eve-biblical-story-is-a-lie-his-dna-dates-back-338-thousand-years/
Holy shit, I'm confused now.
I always thought of race as the biological component, and ethnicity as the cultural component.
For example: I always labeled myself under Asian for race, due to hair and eye color, facial structure, etc. On the flip side, I label myself ethnically as "American" due to heritage and upbringing.
This gets somewhat confusing with Asian people, particularly South-East Asian cultures who are not actually located in China but are considered "ethnic Chinese" from their cultural heritage.
Anax feel free to slap me upside the head if I'm just smoking something extra special.
LOL, love the source!
Looks that the date on that haplogroup has been revised a bit more recently though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_A_%28Y-DNA%29#A00
"Ethnicity is the term for the culture of people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs. To be a member of an ethnic group is to conform to some or all of those practices.
Race and ethnicity can obviously overlap, but they are distinct. For example, a Japanese-American would probably consider herself a member of the Japanese or East Asian race, but, if she doesn't engage in any of the practices or customs of her ancestors, she might not identify with the ethnicity, but might instead consider herself to be American."
Seriously, it's not that hard. Here's another:
"Ethnicity is the term for the culture of people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs. To be a member of an ethnic group is to conform to some or all of those practices.
Race and ethnicity can obviously overlap, but they are distinct. For example, a Japanese-American would probably consider herself a member of the Japanese or East Asian race, but, if she doesn't engage in any of the practices or customs of her ancestors, she might not identify with the ethnicity, but might instead consider herself to be American."
From: http://www.livescience.com/33903-difference-race-ethnicity.html
Clearly you know better though. At this point I have to let this go.
That is what we would define to be "culturally" American. The biological component determines the race with ethnicity simply being a subset within that. Obviously there is a certain cultural learning that comes with her Japanese ethnicity. She might choose to not identify with her ethnic group but that does not make her ethnically American (is that a thing now?)
Seriously, it's not that hard. Here's another:
"Ethnicity is the term for the culture of people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs. To be a member of an ethnic group is to conform to some or all of those practices.
Race and ethnicity can obviously overlap, but they are distinct. For example, a Japanese-American would probably consider herself a member of the Japanese or East Asian race, but, if she doesn't engage in any of the practices or customs of her ancestors, she might not identify with the ethnicity, but might instead consider herself to be American."
From: http://www.livescience.com/33903-difference-race-ethnicity.html
Clearly you know better though. At this point I have to let this go.
A Japanese person who culturally identifies as being American is no longer ethnically Japanese per your interpretation. That's absurd.Excellent example. Tell that to Japan-born japanese about japanese born abroad, you won't get the answer you want. I know that first hand.
Excellent example. Tell that to Japan-born japanese about japanese born abroad, you won't get the answer you want. I know that first hand.
I have plenty of Japanese friends here and in Japan. Really irrelevant. Using examples of ignorant xenophobic racists doesn't support your argument. Whatever it was. Looks like we are back to Hitler and the Nazis... facepalmGood to know you have friends in Jp and CA. That's not a random racist rant, that was reserved to me, very, very, occasionnally. That's a pervasive reaction from 90% of our friends, including JP-born japanese living abroad. But you'll have to take my word for it :-\
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/05/13/japans-half-black-miss-universe-says-discrimination-gives-her-extra-motivation/
By the way, DNA being environmentally influenced, the place of birth and living makes a difference. It's not a set canvas, even if that'd make things easier.
I think we're touching a cultural difference between The USA and Europe on this subject. Race isn't an accepted classification in social studies here anymore.
Why irrelevant ? It makes it fundamental on the contrary. That's why race is an obsolete term. Again different schools ...
Why do you keep bringing Hitler ? If that's about the race classification, that was a thing before he arrived to power ...
Obsolete as a concept Anax. And I have no pretention to be an expert on the US schools, or I'd said so. However I know it's not used anymore as a concept in EU. And that's already a big difference.
Agreed there's a barrier here, on concept and definition.
Definitely. That's why I can't understand what's said in this thread.. Race is not incorporated in the way I see nations. it's just an oddity for me so let's give up. this thread is not that funny anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebZVMc0NKZsFinally back on track. Let the bashing begin !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebZVMc0NKZs
You know Sébastien Chabal is a direct descendent of Brennus?
That's pretty cool. At least to my US 'school' of thought. :))
I'm just bullshitting you. But it's so believable I wish it was true.
Dumb, gullible Americans.
Just going to leave this bit here :D:Ah ! So that's where you got the inspiration for your own :D
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When you have someone named De Gaulle. It's totally believable. I was going to hold off on this one, but nah...
http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-fagan/2013/10/21-embarrassing-examples-of-why-french-people-are-way-trashier-than-americans/
When you have someone named De Gaulle. It's totally believable. I was going to hold off on this one, but nah...
http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-fagan/2013/10/21-embarrassing-examples-of-why-french-people-are-way-trashier-than-americans/
I frickin' lost it at #20 :)) :))She wasn't that bad, France is the second biggest market for Mc Donald's ... :spank:
When you have someone named De Gaulle. It's totally believable. I was going to hold off on this one, but nah...
http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-fagan/2013/10/21-embarrassing-examples-of-why-french-people-are-way-trashier-than-americans/
However it seems like we're not getting morbidly obese as the US, go figure.
Cigarettes and broken elevators.yeah that, or Mc Donalds is for tourists. We have a few here and there ...
Cigarettes
Ah Belgium ...That's what you get when the british decide to create acountry from scratch.
That is the cost of a monarchy: they can screw (other and their own) people and (agencies and) the army protects them.
Yeah or this one.Damn, what happened in 1970?
http://www.suckfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/obesitychart.png (http://www.suckfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/obesitychart.png)
Damn, what happened in 1970?
Sugar happened.
Quote from: Deep Funk on Today at 02:57:15 AM
Sugar happened.
Specifically High Fructose Corn Syrup first marketed in the early 1970's. And probably the explosion in fast food chains and two income households. Less home cooked food, more fast food for dinner. I have a couple of younger relatives that never cook other than cookies. Fast food is all they eat.
There is hope.
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Check, check, and check. We already had cheap(-ish) sugar since we "annexed" Hawaii, but those government corn subsidies really started paying off once ADM figured out how to successfully mass-market HFCS. Also, the baby-boomers (finally) started graduating from college, and all the dang uppity women put on shoes and stepped out of the kitchen. Its been a downhill slide ever since.
Quote from: Deep Funk on Today at 10:09:14 AM
There is hope.
You mean you're going to replace corn syrup with a wok pan ?
No, I think he means the beauty of the wok will draw more women (or men) out of the workforce, to rediscover the joys of cooking.
Once we're all chinese, they'll have to venerate the wok anyway. But yeah that must be that, the other explanation was sounding funky.
Check, check, and check. We already had cheap(-ish) sugar since we "annexed" Hawaii, but those government corn subsidies really started paying off once ADM figured out how to successfully mass-market HFCS. Also, the baby-boomers (finally) started graduating from college, and all the dang uppity women put on shoes and stepped out of the kitchen. Its been a downhill slide ever since.Also, fat became the villain and sugar was added to foods to make them taste less nasty without any fat. Now we have low/no fat food with lots of sugar. Turns out the human body has no problem processing fats, sugar not so much.
Ah Egypt...the only country in the world I have ever visited where I had to eat Turkish Doritos for a week to recover from the horrible food poisoning. I wonder if it was the people in Cairo who would carry their trash past the dumpsters and throw it into the Nile and never dry down their dishes. Hmm...Agreed on the pyramids being underwhelming and Luxor being pretty cool. I escaped any food poisoning there by only eating meat, pita and bottled water. Others around me had fruit and things and got sick. Not my favorite country by far.
Agreed on the pyramids being underwhelming and Luxor being pretty cool. I escaped any food poisoning there by only eating meat, pita and bottled water. Others around me had fruit and things and got sick. Not my favorite country by far.
Also, fat became the villain and sugar was added to foods to make them taste less nasty without any fat. Now we have low/no fat food with lots of sugar. Turns out the human body has no problem processing fats, sugar not so much.
More bacon anyone?
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