CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Lobby => Headphone, IEM, and Other Audio Related Discussion => Topic started by: Gilly87 on June 24, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
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Has anyone else discovered the joys of the HM5 memory foam pads? Using the leathers on my T90 has completely changed my experience of this headphone. I used to only use it for a select few things, while HD650 got most of my head time, but since slapping the HM5 leathers on, the T90 is literally the only headphone I use.
The pads' effect on my DT770 32LE was less desirable, but the comfort is still pretty awesome. Think I'm going to try their hybrid pads on my 770 next.
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I don't think ANYTHING can make the T90 tolerable for me. What amp and dac are you using?
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The only thing that could make the T90 tolerable for me would be deafness. Wait, the T90 can help with that! :)p1
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Yup, these pads are awesome. High quality stitching, nice feel, and very reasonably priced.
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yeah I like the hm5 pads a lot, my zmf t50rp use them, very soft leather
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I wish they weren't circular. I need oval pads for my 10-II. I would've tried these a long time ago otherwise.
Wait... WTF they are oval, how the hell do they fit on a T90 if they're oval
ok just ordered pleathers, will report on results later
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Link?
It seems they have a bunch of them! ;)
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ok just ordered pleathers, will report on results later
They're oval but quite flexible. I would recommend the memory foam velours as well, they help a lot getting rid of bass bloat and reduce the dips past 2 KHz to some extent.
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Link?
Here -> http://www.mp4nation.net/catalogsearch/result/?q=earpad
They also have some new models, that are hybrid or angled
http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-hybrid-memory-foam-earpad-black-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones
http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-angled-memory-foam-earpad-black-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones
http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-angled-memory-foam-earpad-black-velour-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones
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They're oval but quite flexible. I would recommend the memory foam velours as well, they help a lot getting rid of bass bloat and reduce the dips past 2 KHz to some extent.
Bass bloat isn't one of my issues, but 2kHz is... thanks.
I was gonna get both at the same time but I wasn't even sure they'd fit so I'm gonna get the velours after I know for sure the pleathers fit.
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Done.
The mods consist of:
- The new pads: Brainwavz HM5 pleathers, sealed to baffle with 3M 468MP double-sided adhesive (this stuff (https://www.etsy.com/listing/232936602/3m-468mp-super-sticky-double-sided). very nice for mods)
- New frontwave damping:
- Creatology foam around driver opening on baffle plate
- ~3mm thick open cell foam disc on top of that
- New backwave damping:
- Creatology foam on inside earcup
- High density open cell foam crammed in the driver's vents
- High density open cell foam ring around the driver (compresses against the baffle when assembled)
- Headphone has been converted from single-sided cable entry to dual-sided:
- Harvested a headband sleeve and cable inlet from a broken Monitor 10-II
- Cut a hole in the right earcup to mount the inlet
- Removed the cabled headband sleeve and strain reliefs on top of cups
- Removed stock decayed leather on outer earcups
- Restrung earcups with new (nicer) faux leather
- Replaced the cabled headband sleeve with the bare one from the spare 10-II
- Replaced stock cable with a Monoprice 6' TRS to RCA
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34404748/noDel/10-II/mod/1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34404748/noDel/10-II/mod/2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34404748/noDel/10-II/mod/3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34404748/noDel/10-II/mod/4.jpg)
About the pads: Holy fucking soft. These are incredibly comfy. They seal well enough with glasses to be usable, too. Overall the sound has less bass slam than I was expecting, but I wasn't expecting these to be so soft. They act as a sponge.
About the sound: Pretty sure I'm holding the TH900 killer. Bass is just as powerful as the TH600 I used to own. Bass quality is much tighter and more textured. Soundstage is enormous. Midrange is clear and clean. FR is smooth and relatively neutral with a slight dip at 4-5kHz and what appears to be a gentle "V" signature.
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I wonder if they work on the HD650's? I emailed them, but they haven't gotten back to me yet, probably because of the Holiday
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I wonder if they work on the HD650's? I emailed them, but they haven't gotten back to me yet, probably because of the Holiday
I was looking at this the other day. The dimensions are correct, and they fit up fine, but one would need to remove the plastic ring that locks the HD6xx pad to the headphone (from an existing set of stock pads) and then glue them on to the HM5 pads. The plastic ring seals the pad around the driver; bass response would probably be severely degraded if the pad wasn't sealed. I plan to try the HM5 pads once I order a set of new HD6xx pads - I'll remove the plastic locking rings from the old worn out set and glue them on to the HM5 pads. I'm not expecting them to be better than the Senn stock pads sonically, but I like tinkering with stuff just for fun.
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You can make the velour HM5 pads fit, but it's a big PITA trying to get the stock ones off the plastic mounting ring and get the HM5 pads on instead.
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Thanks hans, not sure if I want to risk damaging the hd650's, but those pads do look nice.
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There are new ANGLED velour pads :o
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There are new ANGLED velour pads :o
where
the 10-II is too TH900-y for me at the moment so I want to try velours but angled pads make these sound like the HD800 in soundstage
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Velour (http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-angled-memory-foam-earpad-black-velour-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones), pleather (http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-angled-memory-foam-earpad-black-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones).
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ordered the velours
will report soon
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Got the pads
Holy fuck these sound fantastic now
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Which ones did you settle with?
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Which ones did you settle with?
The angled velour pads, though they have been slightly modified. They offer the flatest FR.
I'll take more pictures of the mods later today.
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I love HM5 pads. My ears are tall, and I've tried fewer than a dozen headphones that are actually circumaural for me (most of which are Sennheisers). The HM5 save me on many potential headphones because they actually fit.
I own pleather, pleather angled, hybrid, and velour. The only ones I don't have are angled pleather but I've been thinking about trying them with my HD650s.
I also have Lawton pads (he gave me the biggest of a batch) and might grab Audeze pads as well. I roll pads like some people roll tubes.
Even Fostex and Beyerdynamic pads don't fit me, but the Brainwavz pads do.
By the way, they do fit on 650s, but you'll likely destroy the original pad's harder plastic part getting them off the ring. I managed to get them off and on again but the back looks ugly (not that you can see it when they're attached).
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I got some angles velour pads for my T90s. While I do like them, I do find they change the sound signature a bit, but I'm not headphone proficient enough yet to describe it. I think them reduce the clarity a little. Has anyone tried cutting out the center foam on the pads to see what effect that has?
I use a NAD d3020 or a peachtree dacit>crack amp
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I would really love a pair of those. I contacted the company to see if they would work on the HD650's, but they gave me some dimensions and I am not sure if they would work on the HD650's or not.
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Just want to point out that we have a leather pads that a similar to HM5, but have different sound (better imo) on the Kennerton website. A bit brighter and much more airy. Also punchier bass. Much pricier however. Sorry if its to much PR, I'm trying it in a more informative way :P
Also I do not like protective cloth, I found that it almost always kills air and sometimes makes high rough. For me, almost any earcushions sound better with protective cloth removed. With exception of some custom ones, which uses acoustic cloth (like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Phonocar-04378-Black-Acoustic-Cloth/dp/B004WODZ7A). So if you are experimenting with HM5 pads, I suggest to try to cut it out.
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you talking about these?
http://kennerton.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=91
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you talking about these?
Nope, ECL-01 - http://kennerton.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=87 , also used on Magister
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What's the difference?
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Dimensions. ECL-01 is direct copy of HM5\FA003 pads, while ECL-02 is suited for round headphones, like Denon D2000. Also they are angled.
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If you had some that fit on the Fostex TH600 that were 70mm tall inside, I'd pick them up.
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If you had some that fit on the Fostex TH600 that were 70mm tall inside, I'd pick them up.
I saw customer tried and bought ECL-02 for his TH600, though I did not check myself if it was a perfect fit. If TH600 have a similar bayonet to D2000 - I don't expect much problems.
However, inner radius for ECL-02 is 65mm
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If you had some that fit on the Fostex TH600 that were 70mm tall inside, I'd pick them up.
If you find a pad you're happy with, please PM me. I'll buy the stock pads. Fostex is run by assholes and they won't let me buy a pair. I need them for a headphone mod.
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Lawton sells stock pads for pretty cheap.
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Lawton sells stock pads for pretty cheap.
wow Im stupid
thanks
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Np, he doesn't always have them but he did a few weeks ago when I bought his pads.
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I purchased a pair of these angled velour pads to try with my HD600: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZGFVEUE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
I'm very pleased and am really enjoying them. They're slightly deeper than the stock Sennheiser pads, so my ears no longer touch the back of the headphone - plush and comfortable. I've always found the the 6xx Senn's headstage to be sufficiently wide but lacking in depth; the angled pads are definitely an improvement, pushing the stage forward a bit, resulting in more dimensional imaging. Mounting the pads required tearing off the two-piece mounting rings from the old stock pads and adhering/sealing them to the Brainwavs pads, not a big deal. I used "krazy glue" and would have to imagine most strong glues would work fine. The pads are thicker than stock however, so a bit of additional bending of the headband may be required for an ideal fit.
Pads installed on the HD600:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/truckyj/_DSC1389-2_zpsc7kaaeq0.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/truckyj/media/_DSC1389-2_zpsc7kaaeq0.jpg.html)
Mounting rings attached to the Brainwavs pads (the poo on the rings is dried glue residue...whoops):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/truckyj/_DSC1390_zpssaaas07c.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/truckyj/media/_DSC1390_zpssaaas07c.jpg.html)
A look at the angling of the pads:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/truckyj/_DSC1391_zpsr4aqonpm.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/truckyj/media/_DSC1391_zpsr4aqonpm.jpg.html)