CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Non-Audio Stuff => Random Thoughts => Topic started by: madaboutaudio on July 22, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
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Rare breed: headbang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCht33vomw
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There is more, Kirsten Brodbeck Kenney makes some nice reviews and Harmony Hicks is also fun to read.
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I wonder how many % of the audiophiles are female?
Although there's definitely more females that love listening to music but don't consider themselves audiophiles.
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There is more, Kirsten Brodbeck Kenney makes some nice reviews and Harmony Hicks is also fun to read.
Doesn't Harmony Hicks write for headphone guru? I try to avoided any reviews from those people.
Have you guys noticed that after a headfier gets enough experience they either becomes a diyer, pyrate, or a reviewer for headphone guru?
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There's Romy aka MuppetFace, but she hasn't been active on here or HF for a while now.
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There's Romy aka MuppetFace, but she hasn't been active on here or HF for a while now.
Too bad, she has a sense of humour.
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hey just saw the video, she did a really good job honest and informative. Someone should invite her to join here.
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Jana's pretty legit. I think she's a sales rep for Stereo Exchange now.
Also a pretty decent jazz pianist as well.
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Jana's pretty legit. I think she's a sales rep for Stereo Exchange now.
Also a pretty decent jazz pianist as well.
She is a sales associate at Stereo Exchange. Funny in that I saw this thread earlier today when there was like one post and watched the video which I thought was well done. Happened to get out of work early so headed over to Stereo Exchange with a couple of my own cans to demo some of their head amps.
The guy who usually helps me was out so Jana set me up in the headphone lounge. She looked kind of familiar and then as I was leaving later she mentioned she also had a YouTube channel and it clicked that I had just seen her video earlier that morning. Odd synchronicity that. She is fairly knowledgeable, but was great as a sales associate in that she just left me with plenty of time in the lounge with my own cans and pretty much all of SE's TOTL headphones out for listening. Unfortunately I really wanted to compare amps more than cans, but the oly one that was set up at the time was the McIntosh MHA100. Still it was nice getting to run all those cans trough the MHA 100, which I think is a good all in one albeit overpriced (but hey it's McIntosh so what do you expect). I am hoping to go Back another time again when the store is not so crowded to hopefully demo some less expensive alternatives. In addition to a good lineup of cans, SE now has a decent line of amps throughout a broad price range. While emphasis is on high. End/expensive , they do have some more affordable options.
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I'm not sure that categorizing female audiophiles a "rare breed" is a good thing. Another way to put it would be to say that there may be aspects of the audiophile hobby that turn a lot of women off. The boothbabe dynamic may bring in a lot of north-middle-aged Diana Krall listeners and nouveau riche asians, but it's not doing any favors to the popular image of the audiophile. Neither does the Freudian obsession with thick cables and big shiny things ::)
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been to many shows haven't really seen bothbabes. Seen sale's reps that are pretty but they are about as knowledgeble as the male reps so don't think they're there for the looks. But then again I hear bothbabe and think of E3.
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been to many shows haven't really seen bothbabes. Seen sale's reps that are pretty but they are about as knowledgeble as the male reps so don't think they're there for the looks. But then again I hear bothbabe and think of E3.
I was talking more about the social dynamic I've witnessed rather than the reps themselves. Nonetheless, as a tech-gadget hobby, there are still plenty of headphone boothbabes out there: http://hifisenses.com/event-report/astell-kern-ak380-launch-event-raffles-hotel-singapore.html
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The few females I've known and talked to in the hobby have all had one thing in common: they receive PMs from creepy guys trying to hit on them. The average audiophile is probably considered a little weird by social standards, but these guys were a skip away from the institution based on some of the short exchanges I've glimpsed.
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A lot of us just silently let everyone think we're dudes by default because we don't think it matters until it becomes too much of a hassle to clarify so we stew for a few days and someone posts a thread like this and we yell THANK ****.
I am not male. I'm vaginabled.
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I'm not sure that categorizing female audiophiles a "rare breed" is a good thing. Another way to put it would be to say that there may be aspects of the audiophile hobby that turn a lot of women off. The boothbabe dynamic may bring in a lot of north-middle-aged Diana Krall listeners and nouveau riche asians, but it's not doing any favors to the popular image of the audiophile. Neither does the Freudian obsession with thick cables and big shiny things ::)
Will never understand how men are more obsessed with phalluses than we are. It doesn't even make sense.
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A lot of us just silently let everyone think we're dudes by default because we don't think it matters until it becomes too much of a hassle to clarify so we stew for a few days and someone posts a thread like this and we yell THANK ****.
I am not male. I'm vaginabled.
I hit edit not quote!!
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oh oh pelpix shouldn't have revealed yourself now your gonna get weird pms.
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this weird enough I want to be memorable
(http://i.imgur.com/ljOT5.jpg)
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I am not male. I'm vaginabled.
I can't figure out if I'm supposed to read this as:
1) vagina bled - like some weird variant on dragon-born (blooded?) or somesuch
2) vagin abled - so the opposite of disvaginated?
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The few females I've known and talked to in the hobby have all had one thing in common: they receive PMs from creepy guys trying to hit on them. The average audiophile is probably considered a little weird by social standards, but these guys were a skip away from the institution based on some of the short exchanges I've glimpsed.
Could be worse. Could be the stereotypical unwashed basement dwelling anime/comic nerd heathen.
I've been the game-room organizer at anime conventions, and have also run panels at gaming/fantasy cons. There's plenty of nice normal folks, but plenty of... neither. Watching the crowds swarm around the womenfolk is interesting too. Look down from a balcony and you'll see the social microcosms. There's the few close by within touching range, the meandering excited types, and the creepers that hang back just far enough but their body posturing is all pointed towards their girl of focus.
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I can't figure out if I'm supposed to read this as:
1) vagina bled - like some weird variant on dragon-born (blooded?) or somesuch
2) vagin abled - so the opposite of disvaginated?
That's a rather invaginated parsing of the term.
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The few females I've known and talked to in the hobby have all had one thing in common: they receive PMs from creepy guys trying to hit on them. The average audiophile is probably considered a little weird by social standards, but these guys were a skip away from the institution based on some of the short exchanges I've glimpsed.
Jeez... is that true in the US as well ? thought it was a bad habit in Mediterranean Cultures.
@anetode : yea audio is like cars or guns... Kind of pissing constest for boys. Big and shiny expensive stuff probably helps men to feel better.
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That's a rather invaginated parsing of the term.
That's something a provaginator would say.
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I've met many women with listening setups worthy of being considered audiophile, however none of them used "audiophile" as a defining term for what they are.
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I can't figure out if I'm supposed to read this as:
1) vagina bled - like some weird variant on dragon-born (blooded?) or somesuch
2) vagin abled - so the opposite of disvaginated?
HAHAHAHAHA I'M LOSING IT.
I got it from:
https://youtu.be/2m-e4PgiVfM?t=2m40s
One of my favorite YT videos. Also relevant because I was born a little intersex.
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That's something a provaginator would say.
Thanks but I wouldn't exactly call myself a pro yet, maybe a talented journeyman.
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HAHAHAHAHA I'M LOSING IT.
I got it from:
https://youtu.be/2m-e4PgiVfM?t=2m40s
One of my favorite YT videos. Also relevant because I was born a little intersex.
Oh jebus Tumblr... some of the worst dredges of social media... I'm sure that there are good healthy supportive communities out there, but there's so much badness out there, and they're the loudest ones. I hate the words trigger or privilege, like they're used as an excuse for their behaviour or questionable morality or lack thereof. I've gotten into arguments with anti-vaxxers in person. All the "acceptance" movements for very unhealthy/destructive behaviour. Then there's doxxing: Cyberbullying fueled by tumblr-rage that results in ruining people's lives.
So. Much. Ugh.
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I've met many women with listening setups worthy of being considered audiophile, however none of them used "audiophile" as a defining term for what they are.
Guys don't even like to use the term audiophile. I believe "music appreciator" is what's in vogue. Can't blame them since most audiophiles look like old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts. Some of the more advanced audiophiles are so old that they can barely walk. At least this was my experience at T.H.E. SHOW.
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Hey, he doesn't always wear hawaiian shirts:
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/f/ff/350x700px-LL-ffc9650c_WHITE20BUFFALO2070-M.jpeg)
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Guys don't even like to use the term audiophile. I believe "music appreciator" is what's in vogue. Can't blame them since most audiophiles look like old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts. Some of the more advanced audiophiles are so old that they can barely walk. At least this was my experience at T.H.E. SHOW.
Yes. Most look like some variation of Nelson Pass, no offense to Nelson lol. I often wonder how much hearing they have left. 13kHz? 12?
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The Internet:
Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.
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Guys don't even like to use the term audiophile. I believe "music appreciator" is what's in vogue. Can't blame them since most audiophiles look like old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts. Some of the more advanced audiophiles are so old that they can barely walk. At least this was my experience at T.H.E. SHOW.
Lots of self-proclaimed audiophiles that I've met have some common traits. They're easy to get onto the hype train/FOTM. They brag about their new equipment for a month or two then whine about alas there is no perfect equipment in the audiophlia, they have to make another purchase. They seem to buy myths and snake oils a lot (i.e. claiming they can 100% distinguish between flac and 320 mp3). It appears to me that they're not enjoying music, thus actually disqualifying them from being audiophile.
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Lots of self-proclaimed audiophiles that I've met have some common traits. They're easy to get onto the hype train/FOTM. They brag about their new equipment for a month or two then whine about alas there is no perfect equipment in the audiophlia, they have to make another purchase. They seem to buy myths and snake oils a lot (i.e. claiming they can 100% distinguish between flac and 320 mp3). It appears to me that they're not enjoying music, thus actually disqualifying them from being audiophile.
They may also have a large collection of DSD material...
Griffon, remember hearing "Call Me Maybe" about 100 times at the last meet? I thought that was cute, but also hilarious at the same time.
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It appears to me that they're not enjoying music, thus actually disqualifying them from being audiophile.
This is the fundamental qualification.
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Guys don't even like to use the term audiophile. I believe "music appreciator" is what's in vogue. Can't blame them since most audiophiles look like old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts. Some of the more advanced audiophiles are so old that they can barely walk. At least this was my experience at T.H.E. SHOW.
"music appreciator" is too many words to type or say, I just use audiophile. In fact I slur -phile. If anyone questions me I just look at them and say they will never understand the awesomeness of DSD256.
The Internet:
Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.
:)p13 :)p13 :)p13 :)p13 :)p13
I couldn't stop laughing.
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I always read "audiophile" as hilariously sexual in my head, like a bunch of old dudes talking about "The curves on that sine wave" God, this DAC performs so well at -90db. Look at the curves.
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I always read "audiophile" as hilariously sexual in my head, like a bunch of old dudes talking about "The curves on that sine wave" God, this DAC performs so well at -90db. Look at the curves.
HA. Look how little the wiggle is in my square wave baby. This amp is the best.
(http://www.audiomasterclass.com/i2/square-wave-on-oscilloscope.jpg)
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I should know what site I'm on, but I still thought the thread title was female alcoholics.
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HA. Look how little the wiggle is in my square wave baby. This amp is the best.
(http://www.audiomasterclass.com/i2/square-wave-on-oscilloscope.jpg)
Your girl ain't no flapper.
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I don't like the term audiophile personally. Doesn't bother me but, I find it just another unnecessary label or title one gives oneself.
I just tell people I'm picky bout sound and just love music.
Females naturally have better hearing than men in general(but of course there is exceptions) and you be surprised how many females like good audio just as much. Girls liking good sound reproduction is more common then people think. Doesn't seem that way cause they take completely different approach to it on avg than men.
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Oh god PelPix, that was too hilarious and somewhat true /ninjas
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The boothbabe dynamic may bring in a lot of north-middle-aged Diana Krall listeners and nouveau riche asians, but it's not doing any favors to the popular image of the audiophile.
I think the booth babe thing started in the first place because those kind of hobbies were already male dominated to begin with. Then as it becomes entrenched it becomes a positive feedback loop and serves to keeps females out.
Will never understand how men are more obsessed with phalluses than we are. It doesn't even make sense.
Apparently we're all just insecure little boys at heart...
Guys don't even like to use the term audiophile. I believe "music appreciator" is what's in vogue. Can't blame them since most audiophiles look like old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts. Some of the more advanced audiophiles are so old that they can barely walk. At least this was my experience at T.H.E. SHOW.
I think it's more because a the cynical definition of an audiophile is someone who uses music to listen to the equipment rather than using the equipment to listen to the music.
Could be worse. Could be the stereotypical unwashed basement dwelling anime/comic nerd heathen.
That must mean I'm in trouble...
OTOH, you do see a lot more females at anime cons than at audio shows.
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Will never understand how men are more obsessed with phalluses than we are. It doesn't even make sense.
I feel the same way about women's obsession with shoes - it's just another one of life's little mysteries.
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I feel the same way about women's obsession with shoes - it's just another one of life's little mysteries.
It's not about the shoes, it's the level of ass enhancement. The higher the heels, the more your ass is enhanced, so you need like 5 gradient pairs to cover the various levels of ass enhancement you need, and then you need them in your different color schemes and different styles to match your outfits. You have 5 gradient levels, 3 colors, and 4 styles, which works out to about 60 pairs of shoes, but you can't afford 60 pairs of shoes, so you cut out the ones that are the least different until you have the largest possible variation between shoes, which leaves you with about 12 pairs of shoes.
It really is a simple mathematical problem and I've never seen any woman explain it to a man before, even though he'd probably get it. A lot of men think we're just obsessed with shoes at random. They don't think about the actually quite elaborate math behind it all.
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I feel the same way about women's obsession with shoes - it's just another one of life's little mysteries.
And handbags, and cosmetics, and jewelry, and scented candles, and designer clothes, and so on.
Men typically go for cars, audio, cameras, shaving, bikes, fishing, sports, guns, and so on.
Shoes can be an obsession for some men too. My brother has a collection of Jordan Nike shoes. Friends at work collect suit designer shoes and talk about saving shit loads of money when they bought a $800 pair for $200.
LOL! going to Vegas for the first time long time ago, I remember some stores providing huge discounts on dresses that were originally something like $10k down to about $1.5k.
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It's not about the shoes, it's the level of ass enhancement.
I thought it was to stretch the calves as an indication of coital readiness (for real).
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t's not about the shoes, it's the level of ass enhancement. The higher the heels, the more your ass is enhanced, so you need like 5 gradient pairs to cover the various levels of ass enhancement you need, and then you need them in your different color schemes and different styles to match your outfits. You have 5 gradient levels, 3 colors, and 4 styles, which works out to about 60 pairs of shoes, but you can't afford 60 pairs of shoes, so you cut out the ones that are the least different until you have the largest possible variation between shoes, which leaves you with about 12 pairs of shoes.
It really is a simple mathematical problem and I've never seen any woman explain it to a man before, even though he'd probably get it. A lot of men think we're just obsessed with shoes at random. They don't think about the actually quite elaborate math behind it all.
That's ass-tonishing!
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but you can't afford 60 pairs of shoes, so you cut out the ones that are the least different until you have the largest possible variation between shoes, which leaves you with about 12 pairs of shoes.
A friend of mine when she had her house built specifically got a walk-in closet just for her shoes. The last time I asked (maybe 5 years ago), she was at over 200 pairs...
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....old dudes with grey hair, big bellies, and Hawaii shirts.
So basically you're hating on me and Tyll?
OK I admit I have very little hair outside of the shoulder, back, arse, nostril and ear departments and you are more likely to sight me in paisley patterned pyjamas than in a Hawaiian shirt (or Hawaiian friggin' anything) but still, I am claiming my right to be offended as a (fully paid up AKA taxed almost to death) member of the white community! Oh yeah, the fightback starts here!
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I thought it was to stretch the calves as an indication of coital readiness (for real).
My ex told me that it was strapped high heels that was the giveaway. She called them "Come f**k me shoes".
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My ex told me that it was strapped high heels that was the giveaway. She called them "Come f**k me shoes".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVaqQe3V498