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Re: READ! How to find good sounding music....
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 04:57:20 PM »

It's not always easy to know who did the (re)mastering before buying. It's almost never written on the CD sleeve, and sometimes it's not written anywhere. How can you know, then (unless you have connections)? Another problem is that some early cd masters in the 80s sounded quite "cold" (with poor bass) compared to vinyl. So now we have to choose between those, or compressed remasters?
Though they're not on the list, I would like to have LFF's opinion about Peter Mew (did the Marillion, UFO and some Whitesnake remasters and they are not very much compressed and sound close to the original vinyls), Andy Pearce & Matt Wortham (the Thin Lizzy Remasters, sound good too and un/lightly compressed) and James Guthrie (Pink Floyd).
What's wrong with the Led Zeppelin remasters? They don't seem highly compressed. George Marino did worse on the AC/DC remasters (the Ted Sterling's were better IMOHO).
As for Bob Ludwig, he did so many "loud" highly compressed remasters recently (Nirvana, Queen) that I wonder whether his name is still a reference.
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Re: READ! How to find good sounding music....
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 03:34:39 AM »

I think Peter Mew did the recent David Bowie Let's Dance remaster (talked about somewhere on this site). The noise-reduction seemed overdone and the treble was kicked up a bit too (from the original CD which was already bright).

I dunno, I get the feeling that these guys are being pushed by the studios to do their evil bidding. I wish some of these guys who have done good work in the past would remove their names from the credits of the shit remaster jobs (or commit suicide.)
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Re: READ! How to find good sounding music....
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 02:28:42 PM »

Gosh, you're right Purrin: Peter Mew did the Let's Dance remaster! Though I trust your ears more than mine to call it bright, I listened to SACD rip and to my ears and with my far from neutral set-up (LCD-3/Lyr with E188CC) I must confess I didn't find it overly bright. Treble might be a little pushed but bass didn't seemed shelved. Is it possible that the CD used a brighter master than the one the SACD? Or is it just that, even modded, the LCD-3 colored the sound too much and masked the bright sound? ;D

Overall, though not perfect, I still prefer a remaster to be slightly off tonewise than overly compressed crap: one can adjust tone with EQ, while a brickwalled master cannot be corrected. The lesser of two evils... :(

And though I am angry and depressed that so many remasters are crap and I think the guys who did those remasters should be ashamed, I am even more angry with the executives who authorize/push these poor masters to us. They are even more responsible, as they have the final decision in their hands and choose to butcher the sound. ::)

It's the same with video: even Blu-rays are plagued with excess DNR (to the point of removing the grain that was on the original negative) and edge enhancement >:(.

Bernie Grundman did a lot of remasters. What's wrong with him?

And yes, the good question is: where can you find LFF's remasters?  ;)
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