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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2013, 10:57:22 PM »

I'm going to have a serious talk with the guys at iriver at THE Show Newport. I'm thinking this is one of those cases where I will write a negative review. The price doesn't bother me as much as being a device that doesn't live up to the price.

I'm thinking they priced it that way to limit the number sold as they develop the product on the backs of rich people who can afford it, and then can afford to throw it out as better versions become available. If their price was lower they'd end up with more complaints from people who really stretched their wallets to buy.

It amounts to grandstanding and getting PR on the back of a flagship product that doesn't really measure up. Pretty sad really.

Glad to hear it, but honestly this is such a regular occurrence with these sort of things. Maybe they should call the next one the "A&K Edition 150" and have Ultrasone put Ruthenium plating on it. What's really sad are the heaps of "professional reviewers" that never met an audio product they didn't love and will slobber all over this thing.
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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2013, 02:33:57 AM »

I'm going to have a serious talk with the guys at iriver at THE Show Newport. I'm thinking this is one of those cases where I will write a negative review. The price doesn't bother me as much as being a device that doesn't live up to the price.

I'm thinking they priced it that way to limit the number sold as they develop the product on the backs of rich people who can afford it, and then can afford to throw it out as better versions become available. If their price was lower they'd end up with more complaints from people who really stretched their wallets to buy.

It amounts to grandstanding and getting PR on the back of a flagship product that doesn't really measure up. Pretty sad really.

That is about as concise a take on it as possible.
That particular stratagem is not limited to iRiver in the audio world but I am shocked they would use it at this stage.
I would be very interested to see how many of the early adopters paid the actual retail. I seem to see a lot of trade among them and I suspect they are buying at significant discounts. The ones who did pay full pop are going to be ego driven to justify it no matter what.

I hear the firmware update is about to be released.

Had the 100 not existed their strategy might have worked. As it stands they provided their own (albiet still painfull in price /performance ratio) exemplar, then added 20 bucks or so worth of new electronics and doubled the price.

I would still love to hear what MQS is really defined as.  I pesonally knew 2 Sony label artists who mastered albums on the road on portable Minidisc recorders, is that MQS? :-00
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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2013, 07:40:11 AM »

I'd wonder if they are compared side-by-side with other DAP, what would it be?

I personally tried AK100 default. I was like, well, I should go and get IPC+RX III with a lil topup. It perplexed me as to how this thing sold like wildfire. Well, I guess someone would eventually call me the ones whose ears are not "gifted".
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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2013, 04:50:38 PM »

I'd wonder if they are compared side-by-side with other DAP, what would it be?

I personally tried AK100 default. I was like, well, I should go and get IPC+RX III with a lil topup. It perplexed me as to how this thing sold like wildfire. Well, I guess someone would eventually call me the ones whose ears are not "gifted".

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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2013, 04:47:06 AM »

I'd wonder if they are compared side-by-side with other DAP, what would it be?

I personally tried AK100 default. I was like, well, I should go and get IPC+RX III with a lil topup. It perplexed me as to how this thing sold like wildfire. Well, I guess someone would eventually call me the ones whose ears are not "gifted".

I actually like the sound of the AK 100 with my UERMs, but after three months I just got sick of the interface. I also found myself deleting 192/24 albums because they take up too much space. Going back to iOS devices.
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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2013, 10:14:55 AM »

I'm going to have a serious talk with the guys at iriver at THE Show Newport. I'm thinking this is one of those cases where I will write a negative review. The price doesn't bother me as much as being a device that doesn't live up to the price.

I'm thinking they priced it that way to limit the number sold as they develop the product on the backs of rich people who can afford it, and then can afford to throw it out as better versions become available. If their price was lower they'd end up with more complaints from people who really stretched their wallets to buy.

It amounts to grandstanding and getting PR on the back of a flagship product that doesn't really measure up. Pretty sad really.

May I suggest something?: bring an old Rockboxed H1x0 or H3x0-series loaded up with reference tracks and let them play with it. It might help them to know that the old iRiver DAPs had features that just worked without fancy gimmicks.

This audio hobby has made me very picky. When I sometimes look at what is for sale I just walk out happy to have money for coffee and music...
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Re: The Haagen Dasz AK120, Any opinions.
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2013, 05:10:04 PM »

Edit: 1st post!

how much is an WM8740 chip? 5usd? 10usd each?

As far as I can tell about $5.70 from most distributors. The high-end WM8741 is about $13.40.

Ha. I was wondering how my lowly Fiio E07K could have the same DAC as the AK.

I listened to the AK100 at the NY audio show last April and was surprised at how weak the amp was. If you're paying that much for a DAP it should have an amp that can drive equally expensive headphones that are more often than not inefficient. The EQ is a joke too; a 5-band parametric that seems like an afterthought thrown in for those heretics that go against the code of the audiophile and use an equalizer instead of buying $$$$ tube amps to color the sound.  ::) When I dared to ask the sales rep how much the AK100 cost, I had to struggle not to open my mouth wide in disbelief.
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