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Re: The Vinyl Thread
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2015, 03:22:20 AM »

Some more notes of recent hunting:

Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (original US press).  Wow, just wow.  I had a UK original press CD of this album that is supposedly very good. I was honestly never impressed with this album as it always sounded pretty thin to my ears (super flat mastering?); that was until I heard this on original US "wally" pressing.  Even on my modest rig!!  Don't even have to crank it to appreciate it but still retains fantastic dynamic range.  NoTB is now my top IM album.

King Crimson - In the Court + Islands (200 gram).  I've determined I prefer the KC jazzy sound and these digitally sourced reissues are really nice albiet a bit pricey.    The old Atlantic label KC albums I have heard are cut terribly or something, they all exhibit surface noise which somewhat ruins the experience, these new reissues definitely solve this issue.  I know there are "pink label" originals that are supposedly the best but seem quite rare and even more expensive.  I will also admit comparing to my FLAC rips the digital files do sound excellent as well.

Slayer - Reign in Blood (2013 reissue).  When I first heard Slayer RiB it was on CD and I fell in love instantly.  Hearing this reissue really rekindled that love.  Another great release, I am not sure who cut these or mastered them.  I picked up South of Heaven, hopefully it's another knockout!

Tool - Undertow (Non original current pressing, 2LP Volcano).  This album is quite cheap around $17 and is an OK pickup considering.  The original CD did not sound that great but the music is just fantastic.  On vinyl it is clearly better sounding and less harsh but after going through two copies I found that the pressing quality isn't that great, a little on the noisy side and you can expect imperfections out the packaging.  Really sucks Lateralus is currently only available via retail on super expensive picture disc.

Also to update from my previous posts.

NIN - Pretty Hate Machine (Non-remastered current release).  Even after professional cleaning this one is still pretty noisy.  I'd say this one is a pass, wish I could find an original.  At least I have the non remastered CD version.

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (Mono non RSD, 2014).  After getting a replacement from the store this album is currently the definitive version of KoB for me!  It's worth having a stereo and a mono version, you will hear the differences pretty easily.
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Re: The Vinyl Thread
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2015, 04:54:10 AM »

Slayer - Reign in Blood (2013 reissue).  When I first heard Slayer RiB it was on CD and I fell in love instantly.  Hearing this reissue really rekindled that love.  Another great release, I am not sure who cut these or mastered them.  I picked up South of Heaven, hopefully it's another knockout!

I have original first pressings for both RIB and SOH. Reign is a typical '80s metal record, not much detail or definition. It's a little better than the CD, but not by all that much. The SOH original though, oh my God. The drums man, the drums! Barry Diament handled mastering for the original CD release and it's fine, really not bad at all, but Howie Weinberg's original vinyl master just murders it. Sooo good. It's a similar story with Seasons. The CD is fine because the Loudness War insanity hadn't started yet, but the vinyl is still way better.
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Re: The Vinyl Thread
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2015, 05:17:30 AM »

Thanks for the tip Dave, I wish I had a chance to snag some original press Slayer but I have yet to venture to Discogs or Ebay yet.  I wonder who did the mastering and pressing for these reissues, very little info on SH forum even. 

It sounds like you know your Slayer...My original CD copy of Show No Mercy is sooooo bad, it sounds recorded in a tin can. Do you happen to know if it has sounded any better on the vinyl releases?  If I see a Seasons reissue I'll probably snag it next.  I really only have experience with the older Slayer catalog up to Seasons.
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Re: The Vinyl Thread
« Reply #103 on: March 06, 2015, 06:26:39 AM »

It sounds like you know your Slayer...My original CD copy of Show No Mercy is sooooo bad, it sounds recorded in a tin can. Do you happen to know if it has sounded any better on the vinyl releases?  If I see a Seasons reissue I'll probably snag it next.  I really only have experience with the older Slayer catalog up to Seasons.

I don't know if Mercy is better on vinyl, but given what Reign sounds like, I doubt it. I just don't think Slayer had recording and mixing down yet, and if your tapes themselves sound bad, cutting to vinyl won't help you. Affordable NM copies of the Seasons first press are harder to come by than SOH, but there are a few on Discogs for under $30. I pretty much always buy first pressings unless there's a good reason not to, like the channel drop outs on the original Still Life, or the many cases of '90s picture disc only releases from when the vinyl market had basically died.

Reissues are just too much of a crap shoot, especially when you have a third party label at the helm like Back on Black or Music On Vinyl. Even the big guys though are stamping out lazy, horrible sounding garbage reissues lately though, often just pulled straight from whatever CD master was lying around.
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