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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2013, 07:04:13 AM »

Hi Tari,


I just found this thread (as I am less interested in new equipment these nights)  :)p7 .


Not sure how your entertaining went, but please PM me and I will do my best to gather inputs that may benefit your guests the next go-round...


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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2013, 10:51:15 AM »

would just like to add that Alinea is probably one of the best restaurants in the world, but I suspect not super special if you're not a food nerd. I would dare say they are more skilled than anything you can find in Tokyo, and certainly different enough to be something new (for pretty much everyone, they're very inventive/innovative)

I suppose it might be a bit late though. if so; I'd love to hear what you/they thought about Alinea.

all I know about the gift part is that as AnakChan says, they love fine liquor... not much help there, sorry!
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2013, 10:03:17 AM »

I wouldn't take them to a place that is supposedly japanese food.  My Aunt from Okinawa said many times people will take a japanese person to a japanese restaurant and many times they chuckle because they eat japanese food frequently.  Take them to a place that is different.  That they most likely won't have tried.  Presents wise, something they are not familiar with is good as you can give them a story behind it and show its value that you hold. Its in no way bad if they have no clue what it is.  Have a story behind it. 

Its like some one from the mainland coming to Hawaii and I take them to the mall or to mcdonalds.  Its something you can find in the mainland. I'd take you to the beach and teach you to surf, the volcano to see the flowing lava, to the mountain to see the sunrise or sunset hoping theres snow at the moment.  All these places are places you may have not seen and most likely will remember.
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2013, 04:55:55 AM »

Hey Tari,

I know this visit has long since come and gone, but I felt I should weigh in for the next time it comes around.  I'm currently working with the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, and I frequently serve as a control officer, meaning I handle gifts, restaurants, transportation, etc.  China is not Japan, at all, but I think some of my experience is more global than local.

First off, if you're going to be dining with them, choose somewhere you can eat the kinds of things they will be eating.  I.E. don't get a salad at a steakhouse, don't order water at sushi, etc.  If that's impossible, it would be better to schedule the evening for them but have someone else actually take them.  The disconnect between  what you're asking them to eat and what you're eating might make them uncomfortable, and your necessary explanation wouldn't help.  It's clear to me that your intention is to be as gracious and accommodating as possible, but it could easily be misinterpreted.

Assuming you find a kosher steakhouse, though, that's a great choice.  Those places have excellent service, and are quintissentially American.  Japanese people are stereotypically known for being assholes, and it seems like the ones you entertain are no exception.  That's not a very diplomatic thing to say, but it's the truth.

The baseball was a great gift, if they didn't receive it well that's on them.  Bourbon or Rye whiskey is also a great gift.  If the gifts are intended to be personal (rather than for display at the office) it's a good idea to get them something they can give their kids, so they won't have to find something at the airport.  Anything with a little luxury to it.

Past that, just keep in mind that Japan has a more formal culture than our own.  Ritual and ceremony have a greater importance than familiarity and comfort, so it's helpful to make a show of things.  Present gifts with people around, wrap things carefully, have things timed well -- all that will help them understand how you value their partnership.
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2013, 05:31:43 AM »

Thanks for the bump and the advice.  This year was a little different - the previous year, the reps were both in their sixties, this time one was younger and one was older - there was definitely a cultural gap there.  We ended up taking them to shallots which is kosher and a decent steakhouse, and our gifts were Ball watches and the largest order they had ever received.  They were happy with that.  The younger gentleman especially loved the watch.   I'm pretty sure the Braun baseballs we gave them last year have become retroactively insulting since the PED scandal.
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2013, 03:40:44 PM »

I'm pretty sure the Braun baseballs we gave them last year have become retroactively insulting since the PED scandal.

Not even kidding. Every time I heard about that steroid scandal, I kept thinking about the poor Japanese businessmen with the Ryan Braun baseballs that you gave them. Your cultural miscues have touched us all.
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 05:23:21 AM »

I grew up in Japan, although it was a long time ago. American beef is very highly regarded in Japan, and personally, I would take it over Kobe beef. As mentioned above, Japanese prefer modest portions, but appreciate the best. So if your town has a world-class steakhouse, that's the place.

We may not know it, but America is world-famous for its steaks, and they are exported all over the world. Rather than serve your guests Japanese food, which will be far inferior to what they can get around the corner anywhere in Japan, serve them what America is good at ... supreme-quality steaks. They might also appreciate an American baseball game; the USA is the temple of baseball, which is huge in Japan.

Any top-quality jazz or blues clubs? That's big over there, too.
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Re: Not being an idiot with Japanese
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 03:04:48 PM »

Thanks for your input, that's what we ended up doing.  I'll keep jazz in mind for the future, both Chicago and Milwaukee have decent scenes.
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