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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 10:16:14 PM »

Some Real Americans will tell you Pabst Blue Ribbon is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  Aging scotch past 20 years is a whole different thing, that's approaching audiophile inaneness.  Cognac is a whole different matter however.  200 years minimum IME.
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Scotches vary wildly.  A speyside, highland and lowland malt are very different.  Laphroaig is completely opposite a Cragganmore.  Dalwhinnie and Talisker are polar extremes.
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 10:25:24 PM »

Being Scottish doesn't make someone an expert on scotch.

^The Benriach is an anomaly for the region and more flavorful than the color suggests (had a bottle about a decade ago though).
 
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I've had some long chats with real Scots and they assure me that American's are the only ones who care about color and even age.  They are just fine with pale color and 8-10 years if they taste good.  I tend to agree.  I don't believe that paying for scotch past 18 year is even worth it. Some scots will even tell you aging too much makes the whisky dull and can take the taste out of it.

The Benriach isn't going to be the best thing you've ever tasted, it's for people who can't get enough peat.
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 10:32:45 PM »

Some Real Americans will tell you Pabst Blue Ribbon is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  Aging scotch past 20 years is a whole different thing, that's approaching audiophile inaneness.  Cognac is a whole different matter however.  200 years minimum IME.
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Scotches vary wildly.  A speyside, highland and lowland malt are very different.  Laphroaig is completely opposite a Cragganmore.  Dalwhinnie and Talisker are polar extremes.

PBR is okay except for the fact is what, bitter water? What is a good scotch newbie choice? I'm not new to scotch per se but haven't had a decent (ie not dirt cheap or the next shelf up) drink yet
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 11:23:22 PM »

Being Scottish doesn't make someone an expert on scotch.


No it doesn't, but being Scottish and working for a distribution company and having all kinds of free scotch given to him by distilleries does!



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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 12:42:04 AM »

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PBR is okay except for the fact is what, bitter water? What is a good scotch newbie choice? I'm not new to scotch per se but haven't had a decent (ie not dirt cheap or the next shelf up) drink yet

Early drink - Glenfiddich 12 (Solera Reserve)?  Macallan 10/12 is a safe choice sort of

So far I've had and still have these bottles in order:
Glenfiddich 12
Aberlour 12
Macallan 10
Aberlour A'bunadh

Couple of bottles reserved for special occassions:
Glenlivet 18
Highland Park 18
Glen Garioch Founder's Reserve
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 10:28:34 AM »

Being Scottish doesn't make someone an expert on scotch.


No it doesn't, but being Scottish and working for a distribution company and having all kinds of free scotch given to him by distilleries does!

Working for the distribution company might provide him with some valuable experience, but being a Scott still does nothing for his credentials as a scotch expert, it's essentially irrelevant.

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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 11:48:39 AM »

No, you're irrelevant.  You have a picture of a chicken in your avatar!
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 12:05:39 PM »

Dude, that's a rooster!

Ok, I'll quit being a pain in the ass...

Back on topic... think about all this high end whisky (I know you LOVE whiskey Mike) going to waste in boilermakers!   http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2012/11/14/2012111400770.html
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 02:40:48 PM »

Working for the distribution company might provide him with some valuable experience, but being a Scott still does nothing for his credentials as a scotch expert, it's essentially irrelevant.

Okie doke, you've made your point.  I'm no expert myself, but I do have a very large scotch collection, so I do feel comfortable with my opinions.  The point still stands that age isn't always as big of a deal as we think it is.  There are plenty of delicious scotches that are very young.
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Re: Scotch Thread
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 05:00:20 PM »

My favorites are heavy on peat, so Lagavulin, Talisker. A nearby store (Blue Max, if you're ever in the twin cities) also has a selection of private bottlers, and there's nothing like finding a cask-strength 25 year old aged in a hand-picked cask at a lower price than the source distillery's own 25 release.

For someone just getting in to Scotch, or for playing it safe, there's Macallan or Balvenie Doublewood. Or go on to a fruitier scotch like one of Glenmorangie's editions or the more substantial Glenrothes.

If you're shopping for your worst enemy, you can occasionally find the really ghetto store which sells 4-5 year old abortions, still mainly clear and nasty as hell.

Most Irish whiskey is nasty, especially Bushmill's. Might as well just get a Jameson.
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