Marv, maybe you need to play a little more with the fit before reserving such hard judgement. Personally, I did like the naturalness compared to multi driver units, and especially BA type. You'll probably tell me I haven't heard a well done BA then but still

I'm getting sick of playing with IEM stuff. Why is it that ER-4S, UERM (non-custom), or even FAD FP8 required minimal playing around with to understand what they are trying to do. This IEM "you gotta play around with it with 84 dozen tips with 63 different insertion depths" is BS. Never made a difference with stuff I didn't like or felt it had no potential right off the bat. If one needs to play with it so much to recognize its strengths and see the light, then there are obvious engineering deficiencies.

The 002 is a strange one. It sounds clean in some ways, but also sloppy and grungy at the same time. You also have to take into consideration that I only went the 'stat route after the availability of more suitable amps. But yeah, the 002 does remind me a little bit of 'stats driver from the 007t or 727 - amps which I do not like - with the exception of the 009 which mysteriously works well, but still not optimally, with the 727.

Perhaps I find the 002 offensive because its takes sounding "natural" to a level of unseen heights of "natural".