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Cristello

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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 12:50:24 AM »
They don't use external damping.

properly tensioned drivers is kinda-sorta damping, IMO.
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 01:26:10 AM »
Better to use separate terms then because the Audeze drivers are tensioned as well.
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Cristello

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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 02:51:10 AM »
Duely noted! an edit has been made.
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socrates

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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 09:33:54 AM »
Good fdbk folks...

Weird ... just noted a similar-themed Dec 4th article on pad deformity @ Headfonia, "What Happens As The Cushion Pads Ages":
http://www.headfonia.com/what-happens-as-the-cushion-pads-ages/
I swear to dog, fellas ... I found that article AFTER posting here. This topic's bug must be in the air.
Anyway ...
On my Beyers (dt880, 990), I have noted that flattened cushion pads tend to gap more at the bottom; that is, the Beyer's clamp (seal) is not even in the TRUE circumaural "dimension" ... at least with my head/skull geometry. The more worn (=flattened) the pads, the more signif. the gap. Also, that smaller gap causes the ear to touch/rub against that foam (sheet) filter, effectively wearing a hole in it.

Now, pardon me ... I've got a dog to kick.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 09:53:24 AM by socrates »
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 10:07:14 AM »
Quote from: rhythmdevils on December 05, 2012, 07:51:05 PM
And open headphones often have velour or other pads that don't seal as well in the first place, so it's not a big factor.
Even with open-air or semi-sealed models ... the headphone's orig. designer probab. TUNED the can's FR/CSD for the DEFAULT pad material. So even cans with porous or soft pad material (foam, velour, felt, etc) may be compromised with hair or worn-out (flattened, "leaking") pads. Like a bass-reflex (vented/ported) loudspeaker which has funky foam in the port.
The pad/foam (when new)  is also part of the can's waveguide, and changing it changes dispersion.
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2012, 05:58:34 PM »
That latest and greatest article about pad deformation on headfonia had me giggling a good bit.  Dude basically describes as HD800 as 'unlistenable' until he got new pads.  poo

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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2012, 06:18:44 PM »
I like how he didn't even notice they were a different design with different dimensions..... :-Z

I asked and he said the original pads were never washed or dried.  Removing those as possibilities I find it hard to believe the new pad will turn into the old pad through simple use.  I've never seen that older pad on any HD800 and I've seen/listened close to 10 of them by now.

Could explain why he cherishes the HD700 so much in comparison.  Nah, nvm, the explanation is worse than that.
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2012, 08:09:10 PM »
I didn't even know the HD800 pads were replaceable. I looked at them, pulled slightly and once I saw nothing happened, I didn't made further checks. I guess my pair has the "older" pads then. In any case I haven't noticed differences on sound for wearing glasses or the hair length.
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2012, 08:41:51 PM »
Seriously. Is that Headphoney-A guy an XXXXX or something? As Anax noted above, the "new" pads are an entirely new and different design. They are flatter, thus moving the driver closer to the ear.

Closer to the ear = less forward / less upper-mids + treble.

Did he just wake up one day and decided his HD800s were WTF? Or how the heck were the worn pads fluffed up so much anyways?
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Re: Hair & pad deformity vs. FR/CSD (& sonics)
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 08:28:17 AM »
Quote from: TMRaven on December 06, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
That latest and greatest article about pad deformation on headfonia had me giggling a good bit.  Dude basically describes as HD800 as 'unlistenable' until he got new pads.  poo
Commercial sites like Headfonia live on NEW REGULARLY-CREATED/"ORIGINAL" ** content (that's how SEs give higher SERPs and (for Google) PR). I could create some BS non-fact-checked article/topic that sounds/reads good  to the general uninformed or UNDER-EXAMINING visitor ... whatever the eff it takes to get the SERP and PR and Alexa up high in the SEs...gotta get people to those Banner Ads and Amazon tracking links.  So make sure we write in complete sentences, spell/grammar check your prose. It's all about the IMAGE ... and Mike's a GREAT photographer, too ... his site sure is pretty and well laid out (an honest compliment!)

But that "Mike" (or whatever the eff his real name(s) is/are/will be) is really full o'  poo when it comes to MANY things headphoney. You an say that about a lot of these Johnny-come-lately sites cashing in on the head-gear boom ... H-F.org, IF, ABIP, IAM, etc, etc.

The one good thing about Headfonia is its DISQUS board. "Mike" pretty much lets one say anything in the comments area (proab. only 'cause it's free content that boosts his SERP/PR/Alexs) ... unlike Mansilla&Currawong's Kingdom or (especially) THIS place ;) Oh but those "Banned" insignias are great for drama. But I liked em better when had an "!" [Banned!] in fiery red. Not ... the new pussied version:


** For more on Content-is-King rule Google  "SEO (search engine optimization)". What you'll get is a seeming endless list of Services, Sites and Books ... all willing to boost your SE metrics ... for a $. Hmmm ... I wonder if Headfonia is a pro job (outsourced SEO, site development), or did Mikey or one of his partners do it inside. It's Alexa is 139,611 and PR=4. Meanwhile, H-F.org is sittin' pretty at Alexa = 8,824 (WOW!!, it was >40K only a few mos. ago ... Jude's gettin' paid like a mo-fo ... must be nice to be a "non-profit" (dot.org) these days!!)
Yeah, with that $olid track record (= meteoric rise), I can see why Anal-X and his fellow buttholes got poop-canned ;) I prefer drive-by's myself ... but Mansilla's slicker ... like his used-motor-oil hair tonic  :vomit:
« Last Edit: December 11, 2012, 08:41:24 AM by socrates »
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