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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2013, 04:33:58 AM »

So what does the 598 do better than these? I've owned the 555,595, and the 558 but am still curious to know if I am missing something. The 5khz peak on these does bother me a little and was wondering if the same can be said about the 598.

598 is a little brighter, more airy and spacious.  The physical difference is mainly a more open web type chassis grill behind the driver rather than a honeycomb.  That change alone is audible.

I removed the plastic chassis web grill...thing...and the fabric as well, leaving it completely open much like the HD600/HD650. The metal grill was still in place. I'm curious how those changes would have measured. At the very least, I thought it looked nicer that way. I don't think it changed the sound much, but a little.
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2013, 11:07:57 PM »

When I tried the 598's the look made me feel like I had just stolen them from some dude's luxury yacht. They sounded a bit more rich/lush compared to my AKG's but I felt they had a clearer and more detailed sound at the same time and weren't sibilant in nature either. They were also super comfortable.

I had a very positive experience and am wondering if the 558's would be just as good to my ears.
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Re: SCHIIT VALI - measurements.
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2013, 09:02:43 AM »

EDIT: Post moved here since these are more HD558 relevant.

stv014:

Attached below is the "imptest" loopback file for my HD558 (80 mVrms with no load and using the 2i2).

Also the sweep results (same 80 mVrms, using 2i2 and HD558 as load).
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 09:30:15 AM by ultrabike »
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Re: SCHIIT VALI - measurements.
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2013, 03:15:08 PM »

Also the sweep results (same 80 mVrms, using 2i2 and HD558 as load).

This seems to show some D/A or A/D related problems, since there is a high amount of aliasing/imaging, and apparently a 22 kHz lowpass filter, even though both the playback and recording sample rate was 96 kHz. Is it possible that the signal was resampled by Windows ?
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2013, 04:24:05 PM »

Yes. Here is hopefully a better recording at 150mVrms @ 1kHz and 96kHz fs.

Thanks! :)p7

EDIT: NVM. I think it still has quite a bit of aliasing. I'll see what I can do to get the 96 kHz recording working.
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2013, 04:34:14 PM »

Yes, it still seems to be resampled at some point to 44.1 kHz.
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2013, 04:52:32 PM »

Alright... how about this one...
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2013, 05:11:37 PM »

Alright... how about this one...

Is it a digital loopback ? It does not have any distortion and the frequency response is perfectly flat below about 16 kHz, but there is still a brick wall lowpass filter at ~20 kHz, and noise shaping. I think I will use the first 150 mVrms file for now, but I have also created a 44.1/16 version of the test file, maybe if it is already 44.1 kHz, then it will not be resampled by the operating system or drivers.
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2013, 05:45:06 PM »

Yup. It was in impedance finding rig mode...

Here is the sweep recording of the 44.1/16 version through the headphones SPL (headphone characterization rig)
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Re: Sennheiser HD558 (modded) Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2013, 06:30:49 PM »

Here is the sweep recording of the 44.1/16 version through the headphones SPL (headphone characterization rig)

Unfortunately, it does not seem to have gone through any analog hardware (the distortion and frequency response is again too good for that), but it is not a bit perfect copy of my sample either. I think with the new settings you use since "sweep_HD558_150mVrms_2.flac", the recording is just a digital loopback through the audio driver.

Edit: I have a few graphs from sweep_HD558_150mVrms.flac:
Frequency response (I could have set a higher vertical resolution; the high frequency ripple and roll-off shows that there was probably some low quality sample rate conversion applied somewhere)
Crosstalk
Distortion vs. frequency (only D2 and D3 are included, anything higher mostly just adds noise)
Distortion vs. level (0 dBr corresponds to 0 dBFS in the original sample file; the 15 kHz result is not shown because of the playback/recording problems)

From the same sweeps it would also have been possible to generate these plots:
- THD vs. frequency with only one channel driven (it did not really differ from the both channels case)
- THD vs. frequency into the other channel when only one is driven (this did not happen in any significant amount)
- linearity (basically, gain vs. input level - it would be somewhat interesting with high distortion)
- distortion plots for specific harmonics
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 07:05:59 PM by stv014 »
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