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Modding the SR Lambda standard bias
« on: November 19, 2012, 11:36:09 PM »

These are amazingly easy headphones to mod, and not just mechanically.  They're super easy to open up which is nice but one you do every little change has a much bigger impact on the sound than any dynamic or ortho I've messed with before.

My measurement rig isn't as finely tuned as purrin's so it's not great in absolute terms but it should be plenty good for comparing itself.

As mentioned in the shoutbox, I was inspired by anax and purrin's method of damping ear-side enclosure reflections.  Adding 3/8" strips of creatology foam/felt around the recess/lip the driver is set in to got some pretty impressive results.

I'll be trying more thing later...
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Re: Modding the SR Lambda standard bias
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 06:59:45 AM »

Nice work and results Mav! How does it sound before and after mod?
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Re: Modding the SR Lambda standard bias
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 09:06:13 PM »

It pretty much only gets rid of that one 'razor of death'.  The null in the original is really just an artifact so the change in FR isn't quite as impressive as it seems.

Personally, even without the mods I love it.  I'd probably take it over any full size dynamic/ortho rig I've ever had the chance to hear.  Mostly because it has much better instrument separation.

I think the severity of the ringing it shows is in the first CSD an artifact also.  I could certainly hear it beforehand but it didn't sound that bad.  I know the FR on those Lambdas never measure right on normal couplers though.  I think you have to have a HATs, or something.  On my head at least, they sound like the FR graph that Tyll has on IF, without the bass roll-off and rivaling neo-orthos in bass extension.  The Lambdas on Ryu's site do a similar thing with a bass hump followed by a quick roll off.  Tyll's numbers show that's probably a fit/seal issue.

OTOH the ringing might be real.  The CSD is a lot different from purrin's (even accounting for his secret sauce algorithms since I've got results approximating his with other 'phones) but the 'phones themselves might be different too.  I said "mostly stock" but since they're pretty old so I don't know if they had the same kind of pads.  I also had to remove all factory foam and fiberglass from the cups since it was crumbling.  They aren't completely stock.

I did some more messing around after I posted those graphs yesterday and found something interesting.  I was trying to get rid of the hash in the CSD around 2K or so and tried adding damping to the back of driver to see what it would do  It helped a little with that but it also moved the ~8khz-ish ringing that the foam and felt had killed up to about 14 or 15khz complete with a null in the FR.  There appears to be a pretty interesting relationship between the driver and the ear side of the enclosure.

I listened to it for a while like that and it sounded pretty good with most stuff.  Even cymbals normally didn't seem to excite it too much.  Then I put on some Yuki Kajiura OSTs which are my usual torture test for this kind of thing since she uses tons of bells and chimes.  It was noticeable at low-ish volumes and fairly annoying at higher volumes so I've got some more work to do.

Hopefully I'll be able to either damp the driver until the ringing is completely out of the audible range without messing up anything else or find a material that will take care of it on the ear side.
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Re: Modding the SR Lambda standard bias
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 09:29:57 PM »

I would say that your coupler results are fairly close to Purrin's. Since you are using a different Lambda this suggests that these headphones are very consistent. Did you hear any distortion issues? The distortion plots at IF are sort of weird (left driver THD @ 100dB is out of control.)
« Last Edit: November 20, 2012, 10:02:55 PM by ultrabike »
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Re: Modding the SR Lambda standard bias
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 04:45:22 AM »

Nice work! Maybe sometime I'll give modding my own pair a spin, although I am more than happy with the current sound.
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