Haha, no don't kill the K601, was talking about the sextet's, what are the advantages/disadvantages on using the speaker plug. And do you just connect it directly, or do you use some sort of resistance between it?

i haven't tested in while since purrin has my 4-pin XLR to 1/4'' TRS adapter i made when i sent my Df's to him. i have them rewired with a 4-pin XLR jack and i made a 4-pin XLR to bare wire cable and run the DF's and sextetts that way off the speaker outputs. for other headphone and just for testing to see how headphones respond to speaker outputs i have a little black project box i bought from radioshack and wired some speaker terminals  i had to a 1/4'' female TRS jack. most amps are common ground so no worry about killing them anyways so 1/4'' TRS jack is fine and so is wiring the 2 negatives together is to act as a double ground.

also there no reason to add any form of resistors since the headphone jack on my amps are already tied to the speaker outputs and power amp  section via dropping resistors to limit the voltage swing to the headphone jack and give the jack it's given output impedance. the box i made uses the full force of the speaker outputs since it has no resistors. just straight wire. also output impedance is always close to 0 ohms on speaker outputs.


i can't say also since before then and when i sent my fostex and DF's out, i gotten my amps fully serviced and brought up to spec. my yamaha sounds better then ever brought up to spec,especially with my speakers, so when i get my cable back i'll let you know. i'm running the sextetts lp now off my outputs and sounds great but don't have any extra 1/4'' jacks laying around to test.

Thanks for letting me know! And I'v got to get myself one of those DF's!

i also forgot to mention. if you get pair of 240Df. make sure they're cleaned out and replace the basic cloth with 240 foam disc available from AKG. why? the foam disc has big impact on the sound. it will help tame the brightness down bit and add tad bit more bass same time making them sound much more natural sounding. they have great clarity as well and seem to like good amount of voltage to them cause of their low sensitivity. they have the lowest sensitivity of all the AKG's besides the K1000. i know purrin had slight impression on them but i sill find these still one of my favorite headphones on my set-up. i used them to help fine tune my Fostex T50RP also. just my 240DF defiantly has bit more air extension. they also provide sense of realism i feel.

the foam disc though is important for the 240DF. without it the bass is thinned out and will sound very bright sounding. the speaker cloth i had in mine was too thin to fully do same effect as the foam disc, but it was my fault on my part at the time cause i didn't have extras and i forgot to double layer the speaker cloth to simulate the 240 foam disc.

Now its time for a K612 measurement

I guess I am extra sensitive to CSD ringing... more than a lot of people on the other site anyway because even though people say that these k612s I am listening to right now (like the k601s) are warm and more neutral than the q701s, they are shouty and bright to me. Not even close to HD600s in quality IMO