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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2012, 05:45:56 AM »

Thanks for the great recommendations guys  :)p1 I think it's great that there are so many nice DACs to pick from, even though they were created more for people who are into speakers. My problem now is actually not having enough time to research on all the interesting products. Hopefully the Gungnir is as good value as the Mjolnir.

Locally, it seems that the only easily available one on the list is the NAD m51, although PS Audio does have a local distro.

Has anyone heard the Yulong D18 Sabre DAC btw?
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2012, 06:41:36 AM »

I need to get my Octave before I go buy the M51. By then the prices will have gone up huh.  :-S
NO!  How about the Audio-gd Reference 7.1 that's been raved about on the stereo.net.au forums? :P
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2012, 08:35:30 AM »

i'm still slumming it with my BM DAC1 (6 years) and MF V-Link and have no plans to change.

volume matched, i would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the DAC1 and my y2.   
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2012, 12:16:38 PM »

I'll be upgrading my Onkyo DAC-1000 soon-ish.

Trying to decide whether to go for something like the NAD M51, or fork over double for something like the Antelope Zodiac Gold.

Basically for dynamic amp I'll be getting the Manley 300B or the Liquid Glass. Probably upgrade my 'stat rig to an Electra eventually as well.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2012, 01:01:32 PM »

I need to get my Octave before I go buy the M51. By then the prices will have gone up huh.  :-S
NO!  How about the Audio-gd Reference 7.1 that's been raved about on the stereo.net.au forums? :P

I never understand how people could like any audio GD crap hahaha
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2012, 02:45:29 PM »

I'll be upgrading my Onkyo DAC-1000 soon-ish.

Trying to decide whether to go for something like the NAD M51, or fork over double for something like the Antelope Zodiac Gold.

Basically for dynamic amp I'll be getting the Manley 300B or the Liquid Glass. Probably upgrade my 'stat rig to an Electra eventually as well.

The Zodiac Gold is definitely not worth two NAD's.  If you must buy one, wait until Black Friday when Neil from Sound Science Cat puts it on special.  The thing about the Antelope DACs is if you're not using 24/384, don't use it extensively to attenuate volume as a preamp, and don't care about the fancy remote, the lower models + voltikus are indistinguishable from the Gold (give or take some inputs.)

Also Antelope one of the shadiest companies out there.  Aardvark itself was shady enough.  Still, I have been contacted by an engineer from Antelope who said he and two other engineers are trying to put a lawsuit together as Igor took their original work at Antelope, patented it himself, threw them out of the company to avoid paying them, and then profited off their ingenuity.

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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2012, 04:45:44 PM »

Also Antelope one of the shadiest companies out there.  Aardvark itself was shady enough.  Still, I have been contacted by an engineer from Antelope who said he and two other engineers are trying to put a lawsuit together as Igor took their original work at Antelope, patented it himself, threw them out of the company to avoid paying them, and then profited off their ingenuity.

That in and of itself is enough to turn me off of their products.

I figured they were pretty sleazy with all that fancy market-speak, but I was rather impressed by the way the Gold sounded. I didn't hear any of the lower models however.

The NAD M51, like the DAC-1000, is appealing to me because it seems simple, manageable, and effective. By comparison the PWD seems a bit overwrought.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2012, 08:49:09 PM »

I figured they were pretty sleazy with all that fancy market-speak, but I was rather impressed by the way the Gold sounded. I didn't hear any of the lower models however.

The NAD M51, like the DAC-1000, is appealing to me because it seems simple, manageable, and effective. By comparison the PWD seems a bit overwrought.

I feel like the Zodiac is only in the same league with DACs like the Anedio and the Auralic. I'm not sure where that money is going. For what it's worth, I've been hearing a lot of QC complaints about the M51, and about NAD M products in general.

Do you need 24/192 MF? If not, a Levinson 360S is now around $2600, which is a pretty damn good deal on a $7500 quad PCM1704UK DAC. The 360S has long been one of my favs, and you can of course add asynch USB for a few hundred bucks. Series 1 Berkeley Alphas are also now in that $2600 range, and the middling hardware is a little more excusable at that price.

The Burl DAC is $2500. The reason I'm so interested is that it's supposed to be a very warm and very analog sounding DAC, like an Audio Note minus the tubes. The opposite of the Benchmark type sound which I can't stand.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2012, 09:05:06 PM »

I never understand how people could like any audio GD crap hahaha
WHAT!?  YOU SUCK!

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/the-darko-dac-index/

Why don't you like the Audio-gd stuff?

I only have the NFB-16, usb powered dac/amp.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2012, 09:36:20 PM »

Well done John Kenny. I'm not surprised people have said the JKDAC32 is way better than the M2Tech Young.
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