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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #1440 on: August 28, 2015, 11:08:00 PM »

Here's my view on Yggdrasil vs Master 7

Schiit's digital filter is so much better than audio-gd's implementation. Yggy has very accurate/real sounding soundstage with depth. Master 7 sounds wider but is very flat in depth. Yggy has more stereo cues and spacial information.  You need to use speakers inorder to hear the Ygg 3D soundstage.

Yggy has much more resolution/microdetail than Master 7. Master 7 is no slouch either, but ygg outclassed it.

Tonally Master 7 is more lush/veiled and darker. Yggy is brighter and can sound glassy. Both offer the same kind of natural r2r tone in their own way.

Yggy is more dynamic/explosive, Master 7 is more reserved/relaxed.

Yggy is brutally honest on bad music, Master 7 is more forgiving.

Master 7 is slower on attack and has much longer decay on the sound envelope, Yggy has faster attack, but no additional decay.

Master 7 has boomy bass, Yggy bass extends deeper and is stronger.

Master 7 requires I2S ddc to sound best. Yggy can get away with it's gen3 usb.

Master 7 runs hotter than Yggy and is quite heavier.

Yggy has annoying relay clicking noise and delay+muting when changing sample rates. Master 7 dsp does sliently and on the fly.

Master 7 is more tweakable and more DIY/Repair friendly while Yggy is quite a fortress/complex electronic.

Acoustic Guitar is where Master 7 sounds best, while Yggy really excels in presenting piano.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #1441 on: August 29, 2015, 01:12:48 PM »

Yes. Seems like the best solution would be a MB architecture that avoids a discrete network of hand matched resistors with lots of potential variability over time. ;)

This http://soekris.com/products/audio-products/dam1021.html is the kind of "discrete" set-up anax is talking about; it is most susceptible to the issues raised by idiotsavant in that thread at CA. The AD57x1 chips in the yggy and gumby don't use discrete resistors. The issue with voltage values is still valid since it is how r-2r fundamentally functions, but can be addressed with better implementations.

Got ya, thanks.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #1442 on: September 05, 2015, 01:27:34 AM »

I'm excited!  I will be checking out the EAR Dac 4 and transport section in my own system.  Going to listen and see if I want to end up upgrading from the EAR Dacute I have.  The Dac 4 has a slightly revised and bigger tube/transformer output section.  I'll have it for a few days.


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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #1443 on: September 05, 2015, 01:40:46 AM »

Sweet! Can't wait to hear it.
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Re: Not a lot of DAC talk on here...
« Reply #1444 on: September 05, 2015, 01:42:51 AM »

Lets meet up sometime in the next week then.
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