The possibility of us matching the group buys for less than 10+ (for the larger discounts) is completely in the books right now. We want the launch to be filled with orders and excitement, so happy to adapt around what is given to us in terms of groups purchasing. So maybe 7 orders will still get the 25% off.... who knows

@ Questhate - Yes, absolutely. Should probably be made clear, but we want these options and prices to be accessible to a larger number of people, so the group buys include all models for the quantities stated.

I hate you right now..well maybe my wallet mostly. bah! 

I'll get some feedback from AJ about the imaging and 3D space relative to his UERM.  I get much better imaging and precise SS from how I hear my UERM versus any of the non RM demos.  I know Shane55 has the UERM and UE10 and my impression is he feels they are worlds apart and not just bass differentiated.  Jude said the same of his UE10 versus the IERM when I talked to him.  Somebody at the last mini-meet also had the UE10 and thought it sucked as well in comparison.  Just some impressions I got from others.


Any plans on a full silicone shell?  Something I've been dying for in top end, uber resolving custom.

Quote from: LFF on August 29, 2012, 11:39:52 PM

Guys...just want to make an important note...you need to find a GREAT audiologist to take your impressions. I went to one of the best and the impressions cost me $75 + gas.  It was well worth it.

As for the C4...I'm still  .

I have heard good CIEM's like the UERM and JH-13 but the detail, neutral presentation, and spatial definition I get with the C4 is just awesome. 

You go to Jerry Harvey's gal in Beverly hills?

Yeah. She's in Santa Monica now.

When you go to the audiologist, make sure he / she has experience with doing ear impressions for CIEMs. The audiologists where I live all mostly suck, and I had some very bad experiences as a result.

Insist that they look at your instruction sheet provided by the manufacturer who will be making your customs. Make them actually LOOK at it. I've heard so many stories about---and experienced for myself---audiologists not bothering to look at the instructions and snidely telling customers they "know what they're doing" because they've worked on hearing aids. Hearing aids aren't the same deal, no matter how much they may insist! Healthcare professions can be very smug and dismissive and convinced that their way is best, refusing to listen. Also don't let them pass you off to less skilled trainees.

The last audiologist I went to ignored the instructions and cast the impressions. When she screwed them up, she tried to put the blame on me, claiming to her boss that I never mentioned the instructions which was a blatant lie considering I repeatedly asked her to look at them. The boss himself was a complete lunatic, and ranted and raved about the instructions because they insisted cotton tips be used instead of foam. He was convinced there was no difference and was infuriated that he was put out by having to track some down. He also ranted about how expensive the customs were and how the company, located in China, was trying to "make money off of [his] work!" and how you can't trust the Chinese.

Obviously most audiologists wont be that patently insane, and that's really the most extreme of my experiences, but I cite it as a warning to make sure you speak up for yourself and don't let them get away with doing a half-assed job. I ended up having to pay for BOTH the first mistake impressions and the second correct impressions. Cost me $140 for the two. I could have contested it, but I was upset over the experience and wanted to get out as quickly as possible. You'd certainly be well within your rights to demand a do-over or refund as a result of their refusal to listen however. Just play it safe and make sure they know about CIEMs and have at least some experience with them and not just hearing aids. Even then, make sure they look at those damn instructions!

Getting your impressions returned or having to get a refit sucks and the shipping gets quite costly, so make sure you do everything you can to get the best possible impressions before hand as LFF says.

Wonder if its possible to request impressions from UE that they took at the meet a few weeks back ..might be worth sending them an email.

It might be possible, UE scans them digitally too and stores the molds in a warehouse.  I got mine back from Westone and they were superb molds done by their chief audiologist Michael West.  Here's an article he put out about earmolds.


http://www.audiologyonline.com/articles/article_detail.asp?article_id=2343