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Author Topic: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots  (Read 21855 times)

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 09:26:50 AM »

Random statement here: I have heard an old black driver hd650 with much less upper mids to lower treble vs a silver driver one before but now I have gotten a hold of a silver driver version that sounds more like the old black driver one WTF is up with the hd650 quality control?

hmm... I have silver driver made in 2012, still I think they lack sparkle and engagement of upper mids. probably this is why I don't like them...(I modded it but still not my cup of tea) is your driver's diaphragm transparent?

New= thicker Duofol material with parts number printed on diaphragm.
Old= thinner, shinier, with a number stamped on to the center of the diaphragm''

more pics: http://www.head-fi.org/t/197776/sennheiser-hd650-appreciation-thread/3990
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 06:55:08 AM »

Adding an HD650 measurement redo... Something seems to be wrong with the left channel this time (very easy to hear). It may be a cable contact problem, but not sure.

Frequency Response



Distortion Right



Distortion Left



CSD Right



CSD Left

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 11:45:48 PM »

Thanks again for the measurements. I'll investigate the driver mishap later, from the graphs it almost looks like it was knocked out of position.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 03:18:23 AM »

don't worry, the Zu Mobis cable will sort it out. 
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 04:04:14 AM »

don't worry, the Zu Mobis cable will sort it out. 

Yeah, I'll just use the stock cable on the opposite site to balance it out  :-Z
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2014, 05:21:38 AM »

Did that and that did not work ... worth the try. Looking at the drivers, I think the left one is off center. Will see what I can find out.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2014, 05:47:54 AM »

My older black driver, original pads and stock cable HD650:



and CSD (left and right superimposed)



I listen to it like this:



Note the dB scale is 5dB/div and is 'stretched' in vertical sense compared to the usual graphs shown here.
Sounds like the measurements show as well.
It's one of the headphones I will never part with.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2014, 06:24:43 AM »

The left driver was out of place. I moved it into place and that solved the problem... Measurements on the right driver may also be different from previous ones since that one was also re-positioned.

Frequency Response



Distortion Right



Distortion Left



CSD Right



CSD Left

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2014, 08:44:49 AM »

I can't do any (relevant) THD measurements as my mic pre-amp is far too noisy which is not important for FR and good enough for CSD above 500Hz.

I like the HD650 mostly because it has about the least amount of distortion of all headphones out there.
In your measurements the HD seems to be below your noise levels as well (maybe the 2nd harmonic is slightly above it).

Perhaps you can make an HD plot without any signals to the headphone and determine your noise floor...
might be a good HD benchmark.


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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2014, 10:51:18 AM »

don't worry, the Zu Mobis cable will sort it out. 

Yeah, I'll just use the stock cable on the opposite site to balance it out  :-Z

my comment was an attempt at humor.  live long and prosper.
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