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Author Topic: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots  (Read 21857 times)

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2014, 05:27:24 PM »

I though that was not a bad idea. Could have been that the cable connectors developed an issue...

Perhaps you can make an HD plot without any signals to the headphone and determine your noise floor...
might be a good HD benchmark.

I'll see what I can do SD.

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 07:58:54 PM »

The left driver was out of place. I moved it into place and that solved the problem... Measurements on the right driver may also be different from previous ones since that one was also re-positioned.

Frequency Response



Distortion Right



Distortion Left



CSD Right



CSD Left



Man that looks glorious, perfectly boring, nothing out of place haha.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 09:04:14 PM »

my comment was an attempt at humor.  live long and prosper.

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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2014, 01:17:21 PM »

I don't think they sound that linear and clean. Owned them one year... blurry not tight bass and besides warm sound decay of sibilants in vocal like SSS and sh sh was more noticeable in time domain.

Magic mids everyone talks about is only OK I have listened better. Not acceptable for the price

I much prefer Beyer 880 600 ohm over HD650 and 600. However Senns has bigger soundstage. Bayer has better articulated more hi resolution sound 

Generally Sennheiser deserves  :spank: walk the plank2
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2014, 10:09:56 AM »

My older black driver, original pads and stock cable HD650:



and CSD (left and right superimposed)



I listen to it like this:



Note the dB scale is 5dB/div and is 'stretched' in vertical sense compared to the usual graphs shown here.
Sounds like the measurements show as well.
It's one of the headphones I will never part with.

That's impressive. What EQ filters do you use exactly?
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2014, 10:11:27 AM »

It's an analog filter (not an parametric or fixed band equalizer) module dedicated for this specific headphone that is inserted into a portable amp.
I do not sell these amps, just design them and build them for myself.

more info can be found on my website (globe under my avatar) but as it isn't exactly pirate booty (no fancy nor any audiophile stuff in there) and still in its infancy I keep quiet about it.
Look for 'Kameleon'.

I don't use other headphones any more (except for the T50RP and DT1350 with its own modules) and stopped searching for the next (always imperfect) headphone out there.
Doesn't mean I don't enjoy trying out other headphone models (like the A5 Pro recently).
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2014, 10:30:49 AM »

It's an analog filter (not an parametric or fixed band equalizer) module dedicated for this specific headphone that is inserted into a portable amp.
I do not sell these amps, just design them and build them for myself.

more info can be found on my website (globe under my avatar) but as it isn't exactly pirate booty (no fancy nor any audiophile stuff in there) and still in its infancy I keep quiet about it.
Look for 'Kameleon'.

I don't use other headphones any more (except for the T50RP and DT1350 with its own modules) and stopped searching for the next (always imperfect) headphone out there.
Doesn't mean I don't enjoy trying out other headphone models (like the A5 Pro recently).


Solderdude's HD650 sounds so good that you really do not want to take it off. When he was measuring the headphones a few weeks back I was amazed by the sound. I am not a Sennheiser guy (except for the HD250 II Linear) and I was hooked.

When a headphone sounds as good as his HD650 you just enjoy the music.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2014, 10:52:20 AM »

I don't use other headphones any more...stopped searching for the next (always imperfect) headphone out there.

You, sir, have lost your mind, then! Every headphone is perfect, but in different ways! :P

I'd love to hear how you have this HD650 setup sometime...not sure if that would ever be possible though, haha.
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Re: Sennheiser HD650 CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2014, 11:17:09 AM »

The amp and filter(s) are very well documented...

It will be available in the USA in the future and is available in small quantities in Europe (as mentioned I am not selling/building them myself, just enjoying it)

And yes... you are correct all headphones are perfect... in being far from perfect !  :)p17
As Deepfunk mentioned I only hear the music on this setup.
To me the source, amp and headphone are out of the equation, only realistic music remains (on well made recordings).

YMMV though and then there is preference as well as crappy recordings which sort-off can make some flawed headphones shine in those other occasions.

Needless to say the HD650 is an excellent headphone with very low distortion and good impulse qualities.
It just needs to be 'motivated' to perform optimally.



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