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Author Topic: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements (V2)  (Read 11449 times)

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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2013, 10:32:26 PM »

You're based in Singapore right? I'm interested in the turn around time for your UERMs. Pretty much everyone else orders CIEMs with local distributors.

Yes Singapore. There is no local distributor for UE CIEM.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2013, 02:23:30 PM »

Just received this. The whole thing screams quality.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 05:31:13 PM »

Nice!  I'm expecting mine in the next few weeks.  I finally caved in and joined the cool kids.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2013, 05:57:36 AM »

I got mine ~2 weeks ago. I'll probably get around to posting thoughts in another week or so. For now, I'll just say that I am *very* happy  :)p7
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2013, 09:57:17 PM »

I'm a little surprised that the UERM didn't make it to the Inner Fidelity "Wall of Fame".  I enjoy them more than the original JH13, but unfortunately haven't had a chance to hear the FreqPhase update.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2013, 04:05:34 PM »

I was a little surprised too. From what I've read, they are still the best neutral reference, and the JH13 (even freqphase) supposedly has a bit of color particularly in the mid/upper bass. Perhaps others can chime in here.

I'm itching to see some ES5 and JH13 Freqphase measurements now. The latter raises the topic of phase frequency response measurements, which I imagine would be a tough thing to pull off on IEMs (although, I guess JH has been doing them). I wonder how bad the phase curve is for the UERMs.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2013, 04:41:05 PM »

Freqphase is just a fancy marketing term. It could very well be that that JH13FP has excellent phase response, but it's debatable whether phase response is that important to sonics, particularly with music. Most music we listen to will have phase errors introduced at the microphone, mixing console, mastering, etc. EQ will always mess up phase response, and EQ can and is often applied at each step of music production.

The UERM have an incredibly "messed up" phase response. Most three to four way speakers using rigid materials will have messed up phase responses because of the crossovers required to make them work. The speaker manufacturer Thiel also believes in the "freqphase" concept for lack of a better term. Unfortunately, their latest speaker I heard sounded like someone banging aluminum pots and pans together - probably because Thiel prioritized "coherent phase" over a crossover design with a steep enough slope to eliminate the higher frequency resonances on their metal drivers (all speculation on my part without measurements.)

BTW. Some of the Monster IEMs (Turbine, Lady Gaga, Miles Davis, etc.) have excellent, that is almost perfect, phase response characteristics. Better than the JH13FP.

The JH13FP is awesome because it uses "Awesome", not "Freqphase".

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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2013, 05:10:38 PM »

Stupid marketing aside, the freq-phase versions sound noticeably better to me.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2013, 05:28:54 PM »

They do sound really good.  Whenever I don't know why something sounds good, I blame it on Craig's HF heaters, so I'll go  with that.
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Re: Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitor UERM Measurements
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2013, 05:53:50 PM »

The design of the cable didn't get any mention either - which to me was icing on the cake for making a decision between the JH and UE. The socket connector is a much better design. I have to say that the Apple / " i " cable is also excellent. The 3.5mm jack is tapered to fit in an iPhone with a case and the microphone / volume adjuster with clip seems like a design feature and not an after thought that the other company thought was acceptable.

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