This makes me glad I decided to go with the UERMs (got my impressions and placed the order last week, crystal clear no logos). I am not experienced in this field, and the only set of serious IEMs I have are UE SuperFi 5 Pros, so my word wont be of much use when I get them.

I was tossed between the UERMs and the C4s for my first CIEM. Ultimately the C4 drove me away from a couple of angles:

1) Reported issues with waiting and customer service.
2) The measurements. I know this should be taken with a grain of salt, but people did report the dip when listening to sweeps and that unsettled me a little for a ~$1000 neutral/reference IEM.
3) The fact that they are being outsourced to China.

The reason this last point was a particular concern for me, is that (correct me if I'm wrong) I'm under the impression that the pair LFF got were made by the crew in UK before the product went full production. So, it stands to reason with them being new to town and changing to outsourcing that consistency issues may pop up, i.e. the famous LFF pair may not be indicative of the actual performance. uelover, your report of color issues made me go 'phew' too. I am adamant about having them crystal clear, no logos, minimalistic, and I would have been pissed to have them arrive with smoke faceplates, especially given the CS issues making sending them back painful.

I simply trust UE a lot more, and I think Frogbeats is a gamble that has yet to prove itself definitively. On that note, the UE customer service is very good. My father has a very positive history of dealing with them, and I have been just as happy so far. After chatting on the phone, Brian at UE sent me to Julie Glick for impressions and told me I wouldn't even need the instructions. She meets with the UE crew regularly, knows the products and procedures very well, and even placed my order for me. She also has demos of all the UE line and the JH line, but I missed this opportunity since her office was under renovation. She's also keen on taking good impressions. She inspected mine after they were done, took a look at the left one and said 'ehhhh.....let's just redo this one', no charge of course. Could I have done some of these things and paid attention to some of these details myself? Sure. But when you're dropping $1000, it's nice to just pay the money and have people take care of you.

If you are near NYC and want to check the UERMs out, I'd definitely recommend paying her a visit. Her office renovations should be done now.

Sorry for the wall o text, but I figured I'd share my thoughts in case anyone else is on the same fence.