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#1 s/n 12xxxx

This one sounded notably "odd." Not horrible, but just plain odd. I don't know why this one doesn't have that little kick at 6kHz.

#2 s/n 13xxx

This one sounded warm and actually pretty good. Unevenness in the midrange was evident.

#3 s/n ?

This one actually sounded a bit bass light. I am most suspicious of this measurement. Will try to reacquire or if not just junk this measurement if I get another one.

#4 s/n 119XX

Less bass than #2. Rolled off upper midrange/treble compared to both #1 and #2. Channel matching is off, but given closeness from midrange to treble, probably not going to be noticeable. Subjectively, this one sounds rolled-off in the treble with some un-eveness in the bass and especially mids.

#5

#6 s/n 12xxxx

Slight channel imbalance as Anax noted. Bass lite, sounds midrangy.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 01:26:36 AM »

DT1350 #4 Measurement #2. June 26, 2012. I removed the DT1350 from the measuring rig and proceeded to listen to it. I then measured it again:


DT1350 #4 Measurement #3. June 27, 2012. Reset the rig and re-measured.



DT1350 Positional Measurements: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,362.msg5796.html#msg5796
They are not as sensitive to positioning on the measuring rig nor my ears as the some fans claim.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 01:51:16 AM »

This is too good. For the past week i've been posting apologetic bullshit on HF's 1350 thread over the last measurement because i assumed that was gathered from the set I sent purrin along with the 404/340. All the while thinking i was deaf because i didn't hear the fr potholes in the bass & treble. Consolation prize: my pair still has shitty measurements, but these at least are better than #3 and make more sense in explaining what I heard and liked about them.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2012, 01:53:51 AM »

They don't sound anywhere close to HE6's though.

Cranking them up, they are somewhere between pretty good and not bad. The dips are obvious. No ringing except for that spike in the last octave, which is only noticeable when cranked up, and even then not that offensive. Little bit too much bass for me in respect to the rest of the spectrum. I don't notice the channel imbalance, but I would like to take more measurements to make sure.

Good CSDs. They are not as clean, clear, or fast sounding as some of the guys in the HF DT1350 thread would have you believe. But then again everything is relative. (stats are my reference.) An enjoyable inoffensive listen.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4 Unit-to-Unit Variability Measurements
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 06:02:07 PM »

Another measurement of the same #4 unit after resetting the rig (posted 2 above). Bottom line: they each sound a little different to me. Some are clearer sounding, some have treble issues, some are bass-lite, etc. Take the measurements as further proof or something to argue over.


I'm just going to go with RD's call on this: box of chocolates
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4 Unit-to-Unit Variability Measurements
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2012, 08:31:40 AM »

Good repeatability on those two measurements....
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4 Unit-to-Unit Variability Measurements
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2012, 10:32:29 PM »

DT1350 harmonic distortion
I double-checked... yes, they are that different between channels.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x4 Unit-to-Unit Variability Measurements
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 11:34:51 PM »

We need a new term for this kind of thing.  Beyer-Fail or something...
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Serious Beyer DT1350 FAIL
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 04:32:51 AM »

Two additional DT1350 acquired. Serious Beyer DT1350 FAIL

See #5 and #6: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,367.msg5907.html#msg5907


On the bass seal issue and positional measurements, see: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,362.0.html
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Re: Beyer DT1350 Measurements x6 Unit-to-Unit Variability Measurements
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 08:29:47 PM »

When I had my pair, it sounded most like #6.  I actually enjoyed it quite a bit, but I ended up liking the M50s more, despite the portability differences.
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