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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 12:44:25 PM »

Not sure in this case.  These seemed very difficult to measure, so not sure if it's imbalance or something in the measurement. 
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 04:50:48 PM »

Mismatch in the machining/aging of the wood cups more likely.  No coincidence removing them makes the drivers match better.  Not uncommon when dealing w/ enclosed wood.  I think half of the wooded Denons Tyll measured have clear imbalances of some sort.
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 06:10:43 PM »

Is it that difficult to make identical enclosures? If you are handy and have the right tools it is easy...

 
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 06:51:42 PM »

With natural wood that has different grains from different trees that expands and ages differently?  Wood working tools are also hardly the same precision as metal tools.  You really think the underpaid sweat shop worker in China grinding out Denon cups really cares about their accuracy or the quality of the interior finishing?  Beyer barely gives Tesla drivers a sniff test before boxing up and shipping.
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 07:20:29 PM »

It is good to know that cheap labour is a commodity around the world, oh joy.

Either way your pricey woodied Denon or Audio Technica might be a woodied piece of crap but you still have to pay full retail price?  Marketing and value propositions in woody effect...
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 07:58:45 PM »

Inside pic of the 7100:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD7100.pdf



At least it has 1000x more damping than a T1.
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:19 PM »

Pads too. Squishy pads can introduce inconsistencies.


Sennheiser knows how to make the right kind of pads, wear issues not withstanding. Obviously the Sennheiser headphone measurement devices under the faraday cage sitting on tectonic plate movement isolation platforms allows only Sennheiser to make drivers with the most consistent matching.
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 09:35:07 PM »

Agreed. I used to have an HD265. I did not like its sound but the padding and dampening were extraordinary. The comfort was unreal...
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 11:56:14 PM »

Ah yes, squishy face hugger pads.

Audeze LCD-4:
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Re: Audio Technica ATH-W3000ANV Frequency Response (and more)
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2013, 12:47:22 AM »

With natural wood that has different grains from different trees that expands and ages differently?  Wood working tools are also hardly the same precision as metal tools.  You really think the underpaid sweat shop worker in China grinding out Denon cups really cares about their accuracy or the quality of the interior finishing?  Beyer barely gives Tesla drivers a sniff test before boxing up and shipping.
The Audio-Technica Co. (or at least its headphones division) is a patriotic enterprise, it does not rob its employees of jobs and then gives them to the Chinese communists . All of the headphones 'woodwork' is done in Japan. If all the U.S. companies were the same.
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