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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2013, 07:34:19 AM »

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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2013, 07:42:57 AM »

Despite the criticism, I went ahead and bought them, just like that (I'm such a rebel sometimes, although a rebel with a special -100 euros offer I must say). Well I couldn't believe my ears. So far, out of my ageing DA11 it's just crap for the price (Anedio U2, Amarra). I, too, don't find them much more detailed than my HD650 if at all, the timbre accuracy sucks big time, the 6000 hz peak is unbearable and despite cleaner I find the bass to sound "paperish" (my apologies for the very non-specific 6moons style expression, I couldn't find any better before having my morning coffee). I'll wait a bit to try it on other sources / amp combination in case of an improbable bad match with the Lavry, or an improbable massive change with burn-in or positioning, but I don't set my hopes very high.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2013, 08:07:59 AM »

Searching for special synergy for the HD700 is a basic violation of one of it's supposed strengths.  Ease of being driven by just about anything.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2013, 08:22:05 AM »

Searching for special synergy for the HD700 is a basic violation of one of it's supposed strengths.  Ease of being driven by just about anything.

My thoughts exactly.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2013, 03:44:27 PM »

Despite the criticism, I went ahead and bought them, just like that (I'm such a rebel sometimes, although a rebel with a special -100 euros offer I must say). Well I couldn't believe my ears. So far, out of my ageing DA11 it's just crap for the price (Anedio U2, Amarra). I, too, don't find them much more detailed than my HD650 if at all, the timbre accuracy sucks big time, the 6000 hz peak is unbearable and despite cleaner I find the bass to sound "paperish" (my apologies for the very non-specific 6moons style expression, I couldn't find any better before having my morning coffee). I'll wait a bit to try it on other sources / amp combination in case of an improbable bad match with the Lavry, or an improbable massive change with burn-in or positioning, but I don't set my hopes very high.

Sell the HD700, sell the Anedio U2, buy yourself an HD800 and some foam  walk the plank
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2013, 04:29:48 PM »

Already have it. For the story : I was trying to find something a bit better than my HD650, but easily drivable with the Lavry only for on the move listening sessions (the integrated amp isn't spectacular at all with the HD800). The USB implementation isn't spectacular either, so I'll keep the Anedio until I replace the whole DAC. And most likely return the  poo.

Quite interestingly, at least to me, I found that its sound changes a lot more than other headphones I've tried when pressing or depressing the cups against my head. Possibly the result of its wild frequency response curve (lots of ups and down) ? I remember something of the sort when I tried the DT1350.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2013, 04:36:19 PM »

So I'm one of those that aren't bleeding at the ears when it comes to the 6KHz peak. In fact, I've listened to all the tracks that were mentioned by folks as causing them to immediately take them off and I can't hear anything overtly or excruciatingly uncomfortable. (It's probably likely that my hearing is shit too, I'll give that theory a chance to prove itself over time!)

What I'm using them for & with (casual listening streaming via MOG or rdio in an office environment with zero cubicles/open floor concept where everyone's babbling), connected to a Dragonfly (thx Questhate!) and my MBP, they're a little fatiguing after about 2 hrs straight (the clamping force becomes a little tiring). But I don't have that desire to put them down like the rest of you guys.

Anax, do you believe any of your mods to the HD800 would alleviate some of the issues you guys measured?

MayaTlab: They don't sound anything like the HD650s to me. It's the same with HD800 and HD650. Comparisons are pointless as they are voiced and built with totally different materials and specs. The HD650 is an enjoyable headphone though and pretty darn comfy. Not sure what you were hoping for with the HD700s. The Lavry isn't a romantic sounding DAC either.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2013, 04:51:41 PM »

I was just hoping for an easily drivable middle ground between the 650 and 800, both from a technical perspective and a "tone" one, as some people reported. I didn't find it to be the case. Yeah, the Lavry isn't very musical, but I'm having even more trouble listening to the HD700 with it than HD800 - which makes the purchase pointless indeed.

Interestingly, mine seem not to clamp my head at all, they just "drop" on the sides of my head, and would easily fall off like the HD800 do when I bang my head around a little too much. When I press the earcups, I find the sound to improve a bit, so I'll try to see what I can do in this area.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2013, 02:06:40 PM »

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About a 1/2 year ago when we had just finished the mix of the audiophile recording ''Torn" by Carmen Gomes inc.,I took a copy of the mix with me to the RAF high end store here in Amsterdam.

They had the HD700 and the HD800 on display.I was curious as to how the mix,done on the Grimm LS 1 speakers,would translate to high end Headphones.

I must say that I was impressed!

At Sound Liaison we like a a clear placement of the instruments,really trying to make the band almost visual,and with a lot of depth and spaciousness in the sound stage.

Of the difference of the two...

I found the HD 800 absolutely fantastic for the quiet tunes,i.e.''Love in Vain'' and the version of ''Let´s go get Stoned'' with the beautiful double bass introduction.
But the last 2 tunes of the album,the louder tunes,Tom Waits "Train song'' with a slightly distorted slide guitar solo,and the version of B.B.Kings ''the Thrill is Gone ''´with the laid back 2nd line drum groove I really liked the HD 700,maybe even preferring it to the HD800.

But if I had to choose, I would go for the HD800.It really gives me the same sense of space and depth that I hear on our High End Grimm speakers,translate the sound we had in mind really well.

But maybe If you listen mostly to music with a heavy back beat,the 700 will do a great job.
But all in all fantastic Headphones.
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Re: Sennheiser HD700 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2013, 04:36:20 PM »

Shared impressions of the HD800 don't count unless you mention their upstream components.
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