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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 06:00:22 AM »

I like the HE6 but the amping requirements suck

I don't think it's as bad as people say. It's more quality than quantity. Probably was more to do with the size of the power transformer. BA and Melos, despite being "flea" powered in today's world, have big ones. Lyr (despite all it's advertisement of power) still has a microscopic one.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 06:35:54 AM »


In terms of planar where the sides are tied down, the center will flex more (different amplitude), but will still excite at the same frequency as the sides which flex less (less amplitude but at same frequency). This is why I'm not so sure about the differential damping schemes.


Didn't get you there. If there are areas which emits waves of different amplitude, then  different amount of damping may be needed to control those areas to the same degree.

I am not myself a big fan of 'differential damping' these days but the general reasoning seems to be quite logical to me.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 06:49:39 AM »

I'm sure Whitney can some me some rare stuff too.

Yeah no problem.  I've been wanting to send you my Yamahas for ages, but I seem to have a problem where the more I learn about damping, the better my ears get at hearing problems, and i can't really keep up.  I keep wanting to get over one more hurdle or try one more thing before having them measured.  I was recently all set to send them and then I had another idea.   ::)

I want them to reflect what I'd like a headphone to sound like.  But I should get over it and just send them.  I'm starting to think they are more limited by the drivers than by my damping at this point. 
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 10:18:46 PM »

It would be interesting to see how much the He6 measurements would change if they were powered by an ipod.  I'm curious if resonance artifacts can ever be changed by amp/source even in worst case scenario like this. 
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2012, 12:25:09 AM »

I would be interested in a comparison of measurements when using the velour vs the pleather pads.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2012, 06:04:55 AM »

Hopefully this isn't too off-topic, but I was wondering how you guys would compare the HE6 vs HE500 or HE5LE?  I've only heard the HE6 and HE500, but the listening sessions and amps were both different.  I tried wading through the main thread on the other site but there's way too much noise.

Also, any experience on the velour vs pleather pads would be good to hear.  If the pleather pads are much better, I'll pick up a pair with a new replacement headband.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2012, 06:39:29 AM »

I'll let someone else tackle the phone comparison who's heard the HE5LE.  But as for pads, the pleather and velour actually sound surprisingly similar.  I'd say the velour has a bit more treble, and the pleather has a bit less treble and more bass.  I thought velour was better on the HE500 because pleather made the bass too much for me.  But it will come down to which phone and what you want out of it.  I didn't get a clear better/worse from my experience with them. 
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2012, 03:13:53 PM »

Hopefully this isn't too off-topic, but I was wondering how you guys would compare the HE6 vs HE500 or HE5LE?  I've only heard the HE6 and HE500, but the listening sessions and amps were both different.  I tried wading through the main thread on the other site but there's way too much noise.

Also, any experience on the velour vs pleather pads would be good to hear.  If the pleather pads are much better, I'll pick up a pair with a new replacement headband.

To me.....

HE-6...very bright on the wrong system. Slightly bright on the right one. Very deep, tight and well controlled bass.
HE-500....still slightly bright, can be a bit dark on some systems. Slightly flabby bass.
HE-5LE....fairly neutral.

The pleather pads bring out more bass. The velour bring out more treble.

For the hifiman's, I prefer the velour.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2012, 04:41:09 PM »

Agree with LFF. No one ever talks about the HE5LE, which is my favorite in the line.
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Re: HE6 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plot
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2012, 02:28:37 AM »

Thanks for the detailed rundown on all three headphones!  I have the opportunity to pick up an HE6 for a nice price and have been looking for a good dynamic standby.  I kind of like the LCD2.2 but the ergonomics and muddiness bug me.  I heard a HE6 through a Trends amp and it was nice, though I didn't listen long enough to make any strong conclusions.  I'm hoping the HE6 does well through an Emotiva mini-X, though it seems to be a crapshoot on how the HE6 will respond to a particular speaker amp.  Unfortunately the folks at Emotiva didn't have any experience on how their speaker amps would perform with orthos.

It still amazes me that a used HE6 is cheaper than the going rate for a used LCD2.1.  I suppose the LCD2 and LCD3 are more impressive upon a first listening, but they give me a headache soon afterwards.
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