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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #310 on: September 26, 2015, 09:28:51 PM »

Well this discussion has certainly went way off topic.

Well this is Changstar.

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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #311 on: September 26, 2015, 09:33:13 PM »

I don't even know what the point of the argument is, or why people are arguing it, nor do I even know how it got here. Seems like a pointless argument, but what do I know?
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #312 on: September 26, 2015, 09:34:56 PM »

Well no shit Sherlock. You have the right to say whatever you want. If you shout out that Africans are subhuman, you have the legal right to do so. Employers can fire at-will employees instantly for any reason. It's their right by the contract. If Yoel Romero wants to go on some "EAT THE POO POO" rant, you can't stop him. They can turn off the camera, fire him, and remove him from their private property but they can't stop or physically punish him from saying or publishing it . What are the UFC going to do? Cut his tongue out for blasphemy against the liberal creed like Saudi Arabia crucifies Shiite theologians? You can say what you want as he can say what he wants as long he doesn't threaten physical harm or incite others to do so. If the Fertitta brothers and Dana White want him to go for any reason and he's an at-will employee, it's their business.

So you agree that Marv has every right to set the rules of speech on his own - this very - website and censor certain kinds of speech. Great, we are in agreement! Good day to you, sir.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #313 on: September 26, 2015, 09:37:53 PM »

well, this thread derailed.

Going to talk to Marv and crew about a "no dumbassery" rule for Chang 2.0. That might cause half my posts to be moderated though.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #314 on: September 26, 2015, 09:39:27 PM »

I don't even know what the point of the argument is, or why people are arguing it, nor do I even know how it got here. Seems like a pointless argument, but what do I know?

Keep it simple. Life is demanding enough.

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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #315 on: September 26, 2015, 09:41:35 PM »

well, this thread derailed.

Going to talk to Marv and crew about a "no dumbassery" rule for Chang 2.0. That might cause half my posts to be moderated though.

How about "you can joke and make remarks but not in certain places"?

Like, say... the measurement forums, the headphone discussion, etc...

I'm sure dumbassery in the off-topic section is very appropriate and should, in fact, be encouraged.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #316 on: September 26, 2015, 09:42:58 PM »

How about "you can joke and make remarks but not in certain places"?

Like, say... the measurement forums, the headphone discussion, etc...

I'm sure dumbassery in the off-topic section is very appropriate and should, in fact, be encouraged.


I could get behind that.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #317 on: September 26, 2015, 10:09:59 PM »

And exactly what can be so off putting about Changster. Not funny and basic smart comments seemingly based on who can swear the most, in the name of free speech.

Great reading which does absolutely nothing for a forum that wants respect. There's the persona that puts many off right there and why some rarely post.

This thread really needs moderating but some Pyrates seem to see this as unwarranted censorship. It's just plain offensive and there is no need for this amount of (as Marv puts it) .... Noise. Offensive noise so it wouldn't harm in the slightest if the new place did something about it in my eyes.

Yes, I don't have to come on here to read it, but part of me thought that perhaps it was going to be an opportunity to tidy the place up and make it less offensive.

If, as a Pyrate, you don't like reading how an outsider feels about the tone of posts, I claim free speech as well, but without the offensive language.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #318 on: September 26, 2015, 10:13:32 PM »

We have developed seven simple guidelines. "No politics" and "Don't be a dumbass" among them.

I don't like being a fascist. This is why they are called guidelines. Rules will always be broken, sometimes for good reason. Ultimately everything goes back to the prime directive: "Try to be nice. Don't be an ass."

I don't care if people post a little diddy on their gay wedding. This happens all the time now in the modern world. I would probably get mad if someone kept hitting the moderation button because someone said "The Hugo looks gay" or "TRRS jacks are lame" instead of "The Hugo looks ghey" or "TRRS jacks are lahme". I won't tolerate "PC Police", if only because standards and customs across the world (and CS is an international site) are different. I would hope that the more enlightened Europeans and Americans be aware of this and be more tolerant of the heathens in Asia and toothless curmudgeons in the less advanced parts of the USA.

I expect moderation will be non-existent or very light. Depends how stupid people want to get. Again, everything goes back to the prime directive: "Try to be nice. Don't be an ass." No one should have to be scared of one or two people. Meltdown threads on non-audio issues should never occur. And these kinds of discussions are staying here. TheGame is much better than I at sorting these things out.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #319 on: September 26, 2015, 10:20:55 PM »

And you don't see these offensive posts as dumb? You set standards in audio that are not matched in behaviour in that case and we can all say exactly what we like as long as it's not dumb? Who decides what's not dumb?

No moderation is a cop out and weak. People should be able to communicate without the attitude or language shown, but there you are.
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