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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #220 on: September 25, 2015, 12:39:09 PM »

I understand and agree with what you feel Sorrodje. We definitively want to keep the spirit of CHANGSTAR alive and well - what I was referring to was stuff that is completely out-of-line and would be unacceptable to the majority of members and guests, such as a personal attack, or any remarks which would degrade or disrespect a person in an deliberate attack.

I think a lot of the things posted by the admins and myself may be taken a little bit out of context. CHANGSTAR is not going to change like it may sound, the only thing different is that some things as mentioned above will be watched more closely.

I don't want anyone to worry about CHANGSTAR becoming something other than what we love - but comments that are way-over-the-top as far as a personal attack or things of that nature will be closely watched. Debates and discussions are good and a lot of us (including myself) enjoy reading the different thoughts and opinions of others. This is meant more of a situation where if things get out of hand in a serious way, it will be dealt with, but not with an iron fist. Things will become more clear to everyone when the new site is up and running.

CHANGSTAR is not having a miracle transformation into something that it is not - this is my thoughts on things. The Admins can elaborate more if they wish as I cannot speak for them or go beyond my position as I am just Moderator, they will have to explain the more finer points. But Please do not worry about this becoming some "other" site.

These are my thoughts on things, I am not speaking for any other person other than myself. I will let they Admins explain their thoughts on this - they may be able to express it in a way I cannot.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #221 on: September 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM »

Like "TheGame" shouldn't you refer to yourself as "TheModerator" since it appears you are the one and only.  Where is the check and balance of how and what you moderate?

You have a point shipsupt. I am currently the only Moderator - but there are admins that have more permissions and power than me. Before I do anything at all, I always consult them first. As far as how and what I Moderate - are things I feel that maybe out of control, a personal or degrading attack on another member or guest, or something totally inappropriate. And it has to be something I believe the CHANGSTAR community as a whole would agree with. But like I said, if something major does happen (which is rare, I believe the vast majority of Members are awesome people), I always consult an admin before I take any action unless it apparently blatant, which I have not seen personally yet.

I understand what your saying and it is very difficult for me to answer your questions properly, the admins with more authority will make things more clear once we get things going. I apologize if my response isn't what you are specifically asking or if I am not answering correctly, or misunderstanding your question - I am trying to answer you the best I can. The best thing to do as far as where CHANGSTAR goes from here is to hear it from those in a higher position than me.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #222 on: September 25, 2015, 01:01:47 PM »

This message sounds vaguely familiar... almost like "I hope you understand even if you don't agree"... do you moderate on other forums? 

You have a point shipsupt. I am currently the only Moderator - but there are admins that have more permissions and power than me. Before I do anything at all, I always consult them first. As far as how and what I Moderate - are things I feel that maybe out of control, a personal or degrading attack on another member or guest, or something totally inappropriate. And it has to be something I believe the CHANGSTAR community as a whole would agree with. But like I said, if something major does happen (which is rare, I believe the vast majority of Members are awesome people), I always consult an admin before I take any action unless it apparently blatant, which I have not seen personally yet.

I understand what your saying and it is very difficult for me to answer your questions properly, the admins with more authority will make things more clear once we get things going. I apologize if my response isn't what you are specifically asking or if I am not answering correctly, or misunderstanding your question - I am trying to answer you the best I can. The best thing to do as far as where CHANGSTAR goes from here is to hear it from those in a higher position than me.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #223 on: September 25, 2015, 01:03:29 PM »

I had the same server error that TheGame mentioned last night - also for around four minutes. I couldn't sleep and was searching the forums reading Black Widow impressions when *bam* site stopped working. The shoutbox shit must have gone down shortly after.

And now all of Anax's posts in the shoutbox look like a single "." to me. Fucking strange. Hope this all gets resolved soon.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #224 on: September 25, 2015, 01:05:05 PM »

There's too much random explanation here, hard to parse on my phone, but here's a quick and dirty update:

1) someone with server access was screwing around last night and played a joke on a couple of us. This place will have practical jokers and it won't always be me mostly due to time constraints in my life. I spent a long ass time trying to figure it out and ended up demoted for my poking around (probably as a joke, too)

2) discussions about audio and gear will remain heated and you sure as hell will have to defend yourself.

3) Marv mentioned on the phone that he's going to call me "a brown bastard" still. He just mentioned that if it was a racial slur that more than four officers complain about, he wants to keep that crap off the forums. Justin/Knerian's observations about mainlanders are still in.

4)Nothing on this forum has changed without multiple officers' points of view being taken into consideration. Marv takes all the inputs based off the context from a bunch of officers. A lot of the guys who made this place what it is have given input directly or indirectly about why they're not as present as they used to be. Those dudes and dudettes and their opinions have a meaningful impact on the choices Marv is making.

4) TheGame is new and overly verbose/feels too much like he's gotta explain stuff. Jeremy, no need to be so formal :). Don't go all HF on us. You must continue having fun.

P.S. Jeremy, your avatar freaks me out. Couldn't it be blackbeard or something?
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #225 on: September 25, 2015, 01:07:14 PM »

As I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and seeing all sorts of behavior in a previous online community as an "insider" I won't comment much until the migration dust settles. I've seen lots of fireworks go off here, but without knowing the underlying context, I'm not jumping to any conclusions. That said, I've been okay with Anaxilus behavior, and a departure like his would be a blow based on his knowledge and expertise. But I'm used to being around aggressive types online, so I think I'm in a small minority. All IMO.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #226 on: September 25, 2015, 01:24:08 PM »

TLDR...

Oh wait, there is something about audio buried in there somewhere... I almost missed it. I wonder if some of you (ZD) pirates have lost your way and are too focused on bullshit and have forgotten about what we started this place for!? Well that's not true, I didn't start this place, but I was around when it was just a few guys and the reason I stayed was not for all this other BS.


There's too much random explanation here, hard to parse on my phone, but here's a quick and dirty update:

1) someone with server access was screwing around last night and played a joke on a couple of us. This place will have practical jokers and it won't always be me mostly due to time constraints in my life. I spent a long ass time trying to figure it out and ended up demoted for my poking around (probably as a joke, too)

2) discussions about audio and gear will remain heated and you sure as hell will have to defend yourself.

3) Marv mentioned on the phone that he's going to call me "a brown bastard" still. He just mentioned that if it was a racial slur that more than four officers complain about, he wants to keep that crap off the forums. Justin/Knerian's observations about mainlanders are still in.

4)Nothing on this forum has changed without multiple officers' points of view being taken into consideration. Marv takes all the inputs based off the context from a bunch of officers. A lot of the guys who made this place what it is have given input directly or indirectly about why they're not as present as they used to be. Those dudes and dudettes and their opinions have a meaningful impact on the choices Marv is making.

4) TheGame is new and overly verbose/feels too much like he's gotta explain stuff. Jeremy, no need to be so formal :). Don't go all HF on us. You must continue having fun.

P.S. Jeremy, your avatar freaks me out. Couldn't it be blackbeard or something?
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #227 on: September 25, 2015, 01:30:07 PM »


1) someone with server access was screwing around last night and played a joke on a couple of us. This place will have practical jokers and it won't always be me mostly due to time constraints in my life. I spent a long ass time trying to figure it out and ended up demoted for my poking around (probably as a joke, too)


The custom titles, okay it stopped at one point. This, fuck no.

If you are demoted for "poking around" when personal conversations are sabotaged, then I need to think about this website. I know what happened on Hype-Fi in the past for asking the "wrong questions" and to call that a joke is stupid to say the least.

When the espresso macchiato has had salt added to it the practical joker can expect more than a complaint.

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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #228 on: September 25, 2015, 01:42:41 PM »

Yeah, right ship. The only way that'll happen is if you let it.

P.S. you're a sack of crap

DF: I'm still a mate. I'm sure I'll be epic powers again soon. I might have effed something up while poking around. Jeremy pointed out to me over email that I have been demoted but I'm still somehow an admin. I tested it out and apparently the only thing that changed was my outward facing title. This is literally someone messing with me (prob Marv).

It's easy to forget, a bunch of us are friends. Marv and I talk a lot more about things that aren't Chang than Chang. He knows he can screw around with me and I'll laugh it off.

As far as custom titles, I totally need to give tak and awesome one now.
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Re: Future of Changstar / Keeping it Going / GOFUNDME!
« Reply #229 on: September 25, 2015, 02:34:56 PM »

Just woke up. Haven't had my coffee. I need to see what happened.

BTW, what TheGame posted was probably bad timing and purely coincidental.

Don't read too much of TheGame's post. We are not going PC, to HF style censorship, etc. I can't see myself relabeling "this is garbage" as " this is rather perplexing" (although the latter does seem funnier) or ceasing the use of "that's ghey", or posing very hard questions on folks who claim only Beyer's first 1800 T1s were messed up sound wise.

Really just a couple of events / threads that I wished were stopped in their tracks in the past few months. You guys know what they are. I've been trying to push things the other way with more measurements, the stuff with the QA400/QA190...

Signal to noise ratio has been lower lately.
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