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What happened to Sennheiser?
« on: September 01, 2015, 10:56:26 PM »
Why havnt they released a good product since 2008 (hd800)
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2015, 11:00:49 PM »
You mean like the 558 and 598?
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2015, 11:08:58 PM »
Silent improvements to HD650
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 11:29:27 PM »
As for some of the less stellar recent products, I think they are just chasing the money and what people seem to be already buying so they can stay competitive.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 11:38:19 PM »
Shine it must, work it might.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2015, 12:45:10 AM »
What? The 650 re-voicing kicks ass. Honestly it could be the HD 658 if they painted the body black and not just the box.
Sennheiser wants to part fools from their money while continuing to improve the older product lines. I wish they would just come out with the HD 850 and a true 250 successor. Perhaps they are actually having problems getting rid of the 6 kHz resonance in the HD 800 without a completely new body? The R&D might be too much.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2015, 12:53:25 AM »
The 6k resonance is from the cups. Arnaud did computer simulations on HF and this was validated years later in the HD800 dissection: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2208.msg60869.html#msg60869

The HD800 drivers themselves are fantastic.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2015, 01:42:18 AM »
The G4me Zero is an excellent closed back gaming headset. The best I've used, and I've used many.

They've been silently improving older audiophile products while working to appeal to other audiences as well (mainstream with Momentum, Urbanite, etc. and gamers with G4me Zero/One).

They're doing right by the company, we just aren't seeing as many headphones as we apparently want. I love the 650 since they cleaned it up, though. I'd kinda prefer them not to make an HD800 that doesn't kill my ears so I can avoid buying it.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2015, 07:26:35 AM »
Looking at recent launch and marketing and all the product talk they seem to be focusing on more consumer end market, where there is more profit margins.
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Re: What happened to Sennheiser?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2015, 03:54:23 PM »
Yeah, headphones are no longer niche products. They need wider audience variety for still more high volume sales to justify crazy R&D for badassery. As for release dates, time between, etc, I am reminded of some book I read in college written by the CEO of PepsiCo during the cola wars, etc. There was a chapter addressing the time some idiot decided to "liven up" the recipe for Fritos. The punchline of the chapter is "don't fuck with Fritos".

The 580 was released in 92? 93? The 600 was released in 96? 97? The 650 was released in 02? 03? The 800 was released in 08, but is a true achievement in driver design and performance, and a very large step from the 580/600/650. The 600, 650, and 800 continue to sell well, and they are distracted selling weird shit to kids. So be it; I much prefer they take their time and get the next incremental advancement right. I am more disappointed they are spending so much money and energy hyping that stupid marble pet coffin.
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