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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2015, 03:29:40 PM »

The only possible reason I can think of is that it may be of 'help' during power up because of the charging of R3,C3 and C7 of Q2 ?

Ok this makes the most sense. Keep bias point stable with extra cap and filter any HF noise at that point
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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2015, 03:34:20 PM »

It looks like the Q1-Q2 thing is a convenient way of biasing up the input transistor's base without injecting power supply noise into the input. That also creates a DC feedback loop: Q1's collector sets Q2's emitter voltage, in turn defining its current by Ve = Ic * (5.6k + 3.4k). Similarly, Q2's emitter sets Q1's base voltage through the R7/R8 divider. (Vb - Vbe) / 10k = Ic, and 12V - Ic * 270k = Vc for Q1. I wonder how sensitive the bias is to scratches and stuff.

The 2SC1815s are 60V parts, so I'd be curious to see if the circuit could be linearized with a higher supply rail. Could be fun to replace R10 with a JFET connected as a current source, and perhaps increase R11 to 1M.
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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2015, 03:37:37 PM »

It looks like the Q1-Q2 thing is a convenient way of biasing up the input transistor's base without injecting power supply noise into the input. That also creates a DC feedback loop: Q1's collector sets Q2's emitter voltage, in turn defining its current by Ve = Ic * (5.6k + 3.4k). Similarly, Q2's emitter sets Q1's base voltage through the R7/R8 divider. (Vb - Vbe) / 10k = Ic, and 12V - Ic * 270k = Vc for Q1. I wonder how sensitive the bias is to scratches and stuff.

The 2SC1815s are 60V parts, so I'd be curious to see if the circuit could be linearized with a higher supply rail. Could be fun to replace R10 with a JFET connected as a current source, and perhaps increase R11 to 1M.

I was thinking replace R12 and R14 with active current sources. Higher voltage rail might be interesting too. Current source would be necessary to keep same bias points
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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2015, 04:11:33 PM »

The idea of the increased rails would have been to run the devices a bit hotter, too. :) I'm not sure if I can attach it, but I have a Spice sim set up that makes it easier to figure out what's going on.

Replacing Q1's load with a CCS is a great idea-- if you have a hard time getting the current low enough without the CCS pinching off, you can shunt Q1 with a large (500k or so) resistor to ground. It will dominate the load impedance and leak some current, making the adjustment a bit less finicky.
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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2015, 05:30:48 PM »

Just so you guys know I'm finding some slight discrepancies between that schematic and my board. Minor ones albeit
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Re: TC Phono-Pre Reverse-Engineering/Mods/Tweaks
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2015, 07:31:53 PM »

Merv, BTW, you should run the 750 through the QA400 test suite. Surprising results
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