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How-To Make Good Needledrops
« on: August 16, 2015, 05:33:33 PM »

Our goal is to find awesome music on wax and share it with our friends.

Share any knowledge and experience you guys have in this thread

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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2015, 06:55:29 PM »

heard thru the grapevine that needle drops onto dsd are better as you don't have to apply a filter as your doing the conversion, but I never tried it myself ....

also great thread.
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2015, 07:07:54 PM »

Step one: wait for Mike Moffat to make an A-D box?
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 07:16:46 PM »

Our goal is to find awesome music on wax and share it with our friends.

Share any knowledge and experience you guys have in this thread

First of all, be prepared to spend some money. At the very least, you're going to need a KAB EV-1. A $20 record brush and some cleaning fluid is not going to cut it. A VPI 16.5, Okki Nokki, Nitty Gritty, Moth, etc would be even better. Good fluid is also required, like Audio Intelligent. A clean record is a must for a good needle drop.

Second, obviously make sure your table, arm, and cart are dialed in. A restored vintage direct drive paired with a modern arm and cart can provide great results because those tables had such low speed variance and W&F. If you're going that route, you'll want to invest in a good isolation platform.

If you're using a belt drive, it's worth it to invest in a motor controller like the Phoenix Falcon and Roadrunner.

The Phono pre is very important. Doesn't need to cost a fortune, but a Schiit Mani isn't going to cut it, sorry Schiit. I like the Musical Surroundings Phono pres because they are so adaptable in terms of loading and gain options and sound great, but there are other good choices as well.

The ADC cannot be a consumer grade soundcard like a Soundblaster or Asus Xonar. They simply aren't good enough. You need something designed for professionals - RME, Motu, Lynx, etc, not for playing video games.

Finally, no freeware recording software like Audacity. For whatever reason, every drop I've heard done using Audacity has sounded lousy. iZotope is a good option, and don't cheat by using any automatic click repair. Listen to your rip in real time, and take out the clicks and pops as you find them.
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 09:41:05 PM »

A few of us find the wood glue method quite effective. I'll upload some rips from my phono rig that audiophiles with small penises would laugh at.
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 11:20:00 PM »

I've got a Mini-Pro. Not cheap, but makes what is by far the least enjoyable aspect of vinyl ownership a little bit less annoying. The ultrasonic cleaners are cool, but the prices are ridiculous.
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2015, 01:17:11 AM »

Of the PVA based glues I've tried, Titebond II has worked best for cleaning.
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2015, 06:30:02 AM »

 
A few of us find the wood glue method quite effective. I'll upload some rips from my phono rig that audiophiles with small penises would laugh at.

I'm definitely not laughing.  ;)
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2015, 07:17:50 AM »

A few of us find the wood glue method quite effective. I'll upload some rips from my phono rig that audiophiles with small penises would laugh at.
Of the PVA based glues I've tried, Titebond II has worked best for cleaning.

Wood glue on vinyl?
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Re: How-To Make Good Needledrops
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2015, 08:05:31 AM »

It's new to me too. I didn't know about the wood glue technique. Very clever. Seems best to avoid being hasty, however.

I have an old VPI vacuum system, and firmly believe in wet-scrub-vac for vinyl. However, given today's prices, I'd probably cobble together a vac system out of a cheap wet-vac (comes with brush!) and some thick felt (or maybe thin). For fluid, you can't go wrong concocting something out of Lestoil cut with water or iso.
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