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Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« on: July 30, 2015, 03:09:53 AM »

I heard that Windows 10 is a free upgrade for good honest non-piratical licensees of Windows 7 (like wot i am).  I run Debian not Windows but my Dell originally came with Win 7 Pro and qualifies.

Also I wanted to check for upgrades for my Galaxy Note 2 LTE (I can't get OTA cos I rooted it so it has to be done via Windows or Mac).  So I had fixed my mind on spending Wednesday morning reinstalling original Dell OEM Win 7 onto a secondary disk and then maybe checking for Android upgrades and even upgrading to Win 10.  hahahahahahahahahaha.  I started at 0930.  Windows refused to install to a disk containing only a single NTFS partition that spanned the entire 256GB disk.  OK, reboot to Parted Magic, use dd to zero the MBR, write new disk label and start agin with raw disk.  This time Windows installer created and formatted a partition to ntfs and then refused to use its own shitty handiwork.  Check google's giant brain:  Win 7 doesn't like to be on any disk except the first disk in a PC.  sigh.  So I open up the case and disconnect the other hard disks and start over.  It works and installs.  OK, now to run through several iterations of Windows Update.  How long could it possibly take?  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhh.   It took till late in the afternoon just to get to the point of being ready to install SP1.  SP1 came down with a bunch of other stuff totalling almost 1GB.  It took bloody forever to download and install and then 2x forever to shutdown and then on reboot it f*cked itself and tried to revert itself and failed.  Luckily I had done a clonezilla image before proceeding so I restored and started again ....same shit.   More googling:  apparently it's not enough that Win 7 is on the first disk controller, sometime it goes really and truly feminine and insists and demands that it is the *only* one.  I had trouble believing this shit but anyway I physically disconnected everything including the DVD writer and  made sure special kid Win 7 C: was on SATA controller 0 on the motherboard.  Fuck me it then took forever but finally worked.  Bitch!  I finally arrived at a booted updated Win 7 whose update screen told me it was up to date and there was that Windows 10 update icon in the notification bar.  By this time I had become cynical so I clicked "check for updates".  There were more updates.  I updated and rebooted.  Same again, more updates, another reboot.   Win 7 was now truly up to date but the Windows 10 update icon had now vanished.  Again consulted the almighty google (and prayed it wasn't coded by the same fucking idiots who build Windows) and found that there is a MS upgrade tool.  I got it, used it, lost money at poker on my tablet while it downloaded 3GB of MS newest horse manure and installed itself.  It took fucking hours.  While it did this it announced "This Won't Take Long".  Truly.  I wanted to strangle the asshole who wrote that screen.  I still do.  Bear in mind that this was at 02:30 and I had started on my epic quest at 09:30.  If I ever meet anyone from Microsoft Windows division I am going to grip their genitals and squeeze hard until their eyes pop out, and not in a good way.

It finally installed.  It is shit.  It repeatedly fails to download the correct nvidia GPU driver and leaves my 1280x1024 screen running at 800x600 or 1024x768 or some crap like that.  It is dog slow, nothing fucking works properly and the theme has been constructed by a teen goth on ketamine during a suicide attempt.  I hope it was fucking successful.

Dear Billy G (as if you will ever see this), do the world a favour and fire all those Indians and start actually testing this shit before making it public.  Make it and test it with people who live i n societies where not every fucking thing is broken and fucked up by default.  If your coders and main focus groups are all astonishingly talkative and worryingly thin and wear clothes with broken buttons and zips cos they are washed by banging them with rocks in a filthy river full of shit and industrial waste then you are doing it wrong.  You are doing it wrong.

I shut down Windows.  I reconnected all my other disks and my DVD drive.  I no longer give a fuck about checking for Android updates, it just isn't worth it.  I booted back into Debian.  It is totally fucking beautiful.

/rant over.

sorry all.

p.s. on the plus side Win 7 and Win 10 did both recognise my USB DAC.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that at one point I thought I would boot into Win 7 safe mode and troubleshoot.  Unfortunately in safe mode Windows cannot recognise my FUCKING MICROSOFT wireless keyboard and mouse.  If they let English people own guns there would be corpses in the street here. 

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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 03:34:22 AM »

My installation is currently underway.

I'm guessing it will go fine.  It's just the Schitt drivers that I'm worried about.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 03:42:10 AM »

09:30 to 02:30? It took you 17 hours? So umm, why didn't you just use your license key and make an install disk? Or at least, get your new Win10 license and do a full clean install. Just asking as I'm waiting for my timed roll-out to queue up. No need to rush things IMO.

Yes, Win7 doesn't like 256MB partitions and can have issues with multiple drives during install. Safe mode has never worked with drivers, that's the point of safe mode. I also have never relied on Windows installs for the latest GPU drivers. None of these are new issues specific to Windows 10.

Maybe Ravi will chime in and let us know how his wife was able to do it. ;)

Reminds me, I need to go upgrade snow leopard to OSwhatever. BBL...

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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 03:52:45 AM »

09:30 to 02:30? It took you 17 hours? So umm, why didn't you just use your license key and make an install disk?

Cos my powers of prediction and mystic foresight are in decline?
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 03:56:12 AM »

It happens.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 04:05:38 AM »

I forced the install myself on my personal laptop just to check it out. It went smoothly since the hardware is new. No idea what it's like for legacy users.

I do wish Microsoft would think to offer things like paid assisted installs at Microsoft stores. Hardware is variable enough that some people will invariably fall into a pit like you did.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 04:09:57 AM »

I forced the install myself on my personal laptop just to check it out. It went smoothly since the hardware is new. No idea what it's like for legacy users.

I do wish Microsoft would think to offer things like paid assisted installs at Microsoft stores. Hardware is variable enough that some people will invariably fall into a pit like you did.

Isn't that what the GWX hardware verification is for? It wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't comprehensive though. This is why I don't like being an early adopter of anything. Like potentially using my hand wrong to make a phone call.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 04:20:12 AM »

Don't trust the software hardware verification tool :)

Honestly, I only upgraded my xps13 since dell sells the same configuration with win 10 already. I like it a lot so far.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 04:26:30 AM »

OP, What's the spec of your Dell?
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2015, 05:41:41 AM »

Is windows 10 anything like 8? I don't like idea of using a touch screen type based software. That's why I never upgraded to 8 besides windows 7 doing just fine for me since nowadays I just listen to music and play on fl studio sometimes...
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