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ohhgourami:
Skip the Samsung SM951. Go for the Intel 750 PCI-e! I know I'm getting one once I upgrade to Skylake.
Corsair cases are pretty shit. Quality is very mediocre and so is cooling layout for air and water.
I highly recommend going for big air cooling over CLCs. Anyone who tells you watercooling is quieter than air (except for very high OCs) is obviously deaf. You're still using fans and pumps make noise.
Are you willing to try open test bench? A few guys on here have taken up my advice and would never go back to traditional cases. Extremely quiet yet good overclocking headroom.
altrunox:
Dude, get a new SSD, and a great quality one, like the Samsung 850 Evo, or even a m-sata that your new motherboard should support, or even better, buy both! :)p1
And watercooler is usually a waste of money +1, something like the Hyper 212X is more than enough most of the times, the only issue is memory compatbility, you would need some low profile ram.
Also, you could get a new case, some Silencio model from CM or even the Define from Fractal Design may be interesting for you, since silence looks to be one of yours priority,
Chris F:
I think my next machine will be open test bench. Really like the idea of just being able to pull crap out when I need to without having to go inside a case and all sorts of bullshit. Also, quality big fans like the Noctua's are very quiet as long as you can keep the RPM on them down.
With regards to Intel CPUs I wouldn't get too hung up on waiting for the next gen unless you are going to use the integrated graphics or want to hit a specific power envelope. That's where all the CPU R&D has been going over the past few years as opposed to IPC performance which only goes up a few percent with each revision. Intel sees the threat from ARM SoCs scaling upwards and is pushing the performance/watt of their chips to fend off the threat. No way is Intel going to let ARM into the laptop/desktop market without a major fight and Intel has the ultimate ace in that their fab tech is several years ahead of everybody else.
ohhgourami:
--- Quote from: altrunox on July 13, 2015, 02:33:27 AM ---Dude, get a new SSD, and a great quality one, like the Samsung 850 Evo, or even a m-sata that your new motherboard should support, or even better, buy both! :)p1
And watercooler is usually a waste of money +1, something like the Hyper 212X is more than enough most of the times, the only issue is memory compatbility, you would need some low profile ram.
Also, you could get a new case, some Silencio model from CM or even the Define from Fractal Design may be interesting for you, since silence looks to be one of yours priority,
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M-sata is being phased out and replaced with M.2. Samsung SM951 is still a great choice but I grown to distrust Samsung drives lately. My 840 pro shits itself once in while and the 840 Evo constantly has slow read issues.
212+ is a piece of crap. Stupidly loud fans and a retarded mounting system that requires 3 hands if you want a perfect seating. Cooling is only mediocre too.
Maxvla:
--- Quote from: ohhgourami on July 13, 2015, 02:29:33 AM ---Skip the Samsung SM951. Go for the Intel 750 PCI-e! I know I'm getting one once I upgrade to Skylake.
Corsair cases are pretty shit. Quality is very mediocre and so is cooling layout for air and water.
I highly recommend going for big air cooling over CLCs. Anyone who tells you watercooling is quieter than air (except for very high OCs) is obviously deaf. You're still using fans and pumps make noise.
Are you willing to try open test bench? A few guys on here have taken up my advice and would never go back to traditional cases. Extremely quiet yet good overclocking headroom.
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The Intel PCIe card doesn't seem to be much, if any, faster and it's more than a dollar per GB and only available in 400GB or 1200GB, the latter of which I cannot afford, and the former I really shouldn't afford given the meager space.
I'm not interested in an open bench. I rarely change anything in my PC these days, and I would be worried about accidental contact with fans, etc.
Regarding sound levels, I have heard my own computer (obviously) and my friend's with the CLLC system, and his was quieter. It is possible that updating my case to something made within the last decade to allow for larger slower fans will create the same low sound levels. The cooling question is certainly not answered yet, and if the water+case setup starts looking too expensive/not attractive, I have no problems falling back on air. I haven't overclocked in ages, probably 10 years because for most tasks, the processor isn't being taxed in the first place. Once dual core processors came out, most processor speed increases gave minimal boost to overall performance. My last substantial overclock was an Intel P4 2.4b @ 3.6GHz on water.
@altrunox
The Hyper 212 is indeed very nice for what it cost, so there's a good chance I'll continue to use it if I opt out of water.
I'll look at the cases you suggest. Thanks.
@Chris F
The chip upgrade is somewhat about performance, but is mostly about updating the platform as a whole, and getting in on the 1151 socket at the beginning, with perhaps some upgradability later. This burned me on the 1156 socket, being an early adopter, but the 1151 seems to have legs. Moving to the 100 series chipset gets me several smaller tech upgrades as well as the faster main processor, so it's about the sum of the parts, rather than just getting a fast chip.
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