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Author Topic: HiFiMan HE-1000 Measurements BETA - Official  (Read 10571 times)

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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2015, 05:37:08 AM »

The juxtaposition of this >kilobuck* thing and TP pleases me.

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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2015, 06:48:09 AM »

I am not having any lack-of-focus or heft issues as with ohgourami or Sorrodje, at least when using the HE-1000 appropriate. At least there's a good side. Those who prefer the lusher softer sound have good cheap options.

I never said the HE1000 was lush. Never. Even from a clip zip. 

Maybe my HE-9 is not capable enough but Lojay and Negura seems to share may impression about the lack of attack/impact/articulation.  they Have EC 2A3 mkIV and 4-45 and they both found this headphone  to sound "relaxing non offensive" our amps Not good enough maybe ?  We all say  that the HEK sound beautiful . Beautilful does not mean "lush" or " euphonic"... it's just like..."beautiful".

BTW, Thks for those measurements,  headbang

it seems they match perfectly with our impressions ( silght sub bass bump ,high mids dip, slight treble peak). those measurements explain mostly my own impressions. I'm not so bothered by the Stock 7 khz treble peak   and I never flet the need to fix any brightness.

Lack of attack, bite and articuliation comes probably from the high mids dip and contributes to what I called the lack of focus, lack of precisions in instruments and layers delineation. its really subtle though and it seems we're not all as sensitive to this point as I am.   ;) .. I had no doubt about THDs after my subjective impressions ( really clean and resolving headphones)

My  2 cents.
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2015, 07:12:59 AM »

Wow, that is looking really good.  First phone that I have been excited about as a contender to HD800 for me.  With just TP.
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2015, 07:24:24 AM »

Oh I might add, from a timbre point of view, something like a cross between HE-560 and HE-6. Most of the best parts of both. At least when powered properly. Quite a good sound. Otherwise with weaker amps, we end up with a Maggie planar type of sound.

Good. That confirms it was amp coloration I heard at CES. It was the freaking EF6 perhaps tweaked.

Me no likie Maggie sound. Phew.
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015, 07:47:36 AM »

How do you guys describe the Maggie sound?

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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2015, 08:00:02 AM »

For me, it's overall a warm but neutral signature with a decent weight and heft for a planar speaker but it's like an audio veneer trying to mask the fact it has a planar coloration. I can never escape that sound no matter how hard Maggies try, and they do try. The purposeful tuning is obvious to me they are trying to get planar technicalities with dynamic drive sonic character. Relatively fast sounding of course but not all that resolving at all of inner resolution or micro dynamics. Doesn't have that 3D imaging of a whole SS or audio 'picture' if you catch my meaning. I didn't think clarity was very good either, rather average.

Recommended for those that prioritize a neutralish warm and 'quick' sounding planar signature over all else.
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2015, 08:11:35 AM »

I see.

HEK does not sound like that at all. Clarity and resolution are definitely there.

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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2015, 08:37:47 AM »

A little bit of presence energy, a touch of sibilance and low distortion all around. Sounds about right.

I'm all for that upper mid dip on a fast headphone, especially since it's relatively mild and even. SR-009 with more bass weight  :)p1
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2015, 08:48:56 AM »

Well, might be two types of clarity. Maggies aren't veiled, they just don't have that crystal clear window clarity. They have a planar hollow type of clarity if that makes sense. Marv said Maggie applies to underdriven or poorly matched units which I totally believe.
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Re: HE-1000 measurements preliminary
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2015, 09:05:30 AM »

That's what I noticed as well. Clarity is there at least with the he-9. Probably not ad much as what could offer the best tube amps though.

That been said. Even if the softness/hollowness is really reduced, corners are still slightly rounded. Attacks are smooth. Bite is gentle. Bass visceral impact is not enough there.  layering and instruments positioning are not razor sharped.

Maybe your Totl  EC amps delivered by god himself on the Sinaï Mount could change that though. Just kidding you guys. ;) no offense.

BTW as I have already said the he1000 is a wonderful headphone and i' m a fuckin' nitpicker here. YMMV.
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