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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2015, 02:54:19 AM »

Was sick home today while the wife and kid visited a museum so I got some quality time with the v2.

First, holy moly this thing is musical. There's tons more information and that fine detail that makes the better DACs so much more engaging is there in spades. I'm not kidding when I say this is among the best DACs I've had in my possession. It's not the Yggy, but I can stuff this in a bag and take it with me on vacation. With the Leckerton and UERM, I've got a rig that goes everywhere with me that sounds GOOD!
What Leckerton would you be feeding with the V2?  Analog so as to bypass the Leckerton DAC, I imagine...
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2015, 03:31:04 AM »

What Leckerton would you be feeding with the V2?  Analog so as to bypass the Leckerton DAC, I imagine...

Seeing the GO can't be used as a headphone amp, and it can't output digital, I'd expect the analog i/p of the Leck will be used.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2015, 03:43:38 AM »

Was sick home today while the wife and kid visited a museum so I got some quality time with the v2.

First, holy moly this thing is musical. There's tons more information and that fine detail that makes the better DACs so much more engaging is there in spades. I'm not kidding when I say this is among the best DACs I've had in my possession. It's not the Yggy, but I can stuff this in a bag and take it with me on vacation. With the Leckerton and UERM, I've got a rig that goes everywhere with me that sounds GOOD!

ZD,

these positive impressions, along with William-The-P  indicate a lot of promise for Geek Out V2 and V2+.
however both of you appear to run GOV2 as a DAC into another amp (most frequently).

can either of you differentiate on the Amp section of V2 vs. Leck, or there external IEM amps-
GOV2 Amp is 50/70/90% of other IEM amps or ?

hm when is Dr Cavalli IEM amp going to enter our lives?

thanks for stealing the V2.  ignore Casey when he asks for it back, send it to me.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2015, 04:56:23 AM »

I feel a little sad, I got the Geek Out V1 only a little more than a month before this announcement. Baby's first DAC. More likely than not I'll be saving to get the V2 sometime.

The 450 is still a very good little unit and just because something comes out that is noticeably different or even better in some regard...doesn't mean that the previously good stuff is suddenly not.  I like to get the new stuff in-house and then compare with some time before off-loading the previous.  Keep that 450 and enjoy in the meantime, which we think was a big jump up for a USB DAC/Amp or DAC (period).  Later, if you get to compare- you may still prefer that one for your uses and might not want the newer one.  Sometimes that happens.  I'll want to compare under lots of conditions and I may keep or give or sell the 450/720/1000 Geek Outs that I am hoarding right now. :)p15
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2015, 05:12:13 AM »

For those of you with GO450s, I highly recommend you hang on to them until we can review the 3 gain units. Right now, my current v.2  prototype only does high gain (1000mw). Compared to the v.1 GO1000, it's an obvious improvement across the board. However, the v.1 450 still does some things better when used as a DAC only. Imaging, space and overall resolution are a bit cleaner and delineated. I suspect this is because of the 1000's is still putting out a little more distortion than when pumping out 450mw or 100mw. Where the v.2 1000 improves over the v.1 450 is more organic tone and timbre, more natural ease and musicality, cleaner macrodynamics and blacker background. So you could say these improvements reflect the changes included with the newer chip. The relative analog characteristics and differences between the 1000/720/450/100 still hold it seems to me.

Considering the 3-gain v.2 models will come at a price premium over the GO450 v.1s, I think there is possibly still a case for holding on to them.

The GO v.1s were kind of like this:

GO100-Cleanest of all the GO's, but macro dynamics were notably the softest and least involving.
GO450-The Reference model with the best resolution, imaging, space and air, best combo of clean and accurate macro-dynamic weight, etc., etc.
GO720-Sonics between 450 and 1000, but mostly shared character of the 1000.
GO1000-Biggest bass slam and punch, above neutral sounding, micro stuff and transients more noticeably blurred over compared to the 450.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2015, 12:17:35 PM »

Has anyone here tested the GO V1 or V2 prototype with a split USB cable and powered by a battery pack, an LPS or a good SMPS?
I am wondering how much better these USB DAC can sound with a "clean" power supply.

Concerning the rave reviews the GO V2 is gathering here, don't forget that LH Labs will have fine-tuned the prototypes to perfectly match all the components to get the best performance. The production units won't measure as good on average and are likely to feature inferior sound. It's exactly what happened when LH Labs first published the measurements on the Geek Pulse and later could show no improvement for the Geek Pulse Infinity despite heavy performance tweaking.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2015, 03:50:16 PM »

Has anyone here tested the GO V1 or V2 prototype with a split USB cable and powered by a battery pack, an LPS or a good SMPS?
I am wondering how much better these USB DAC can sound with a "clean" power supply.

Concerning the rave reviews the GO V2 is gathering here, don't forget that LH Labs will have fine-tuned the prototypes to perfectly match all the components to get the best performance. The production units won't measure as good on average and are likely to feature inferior sound. It's exactly what happened when LH Labs first published the measurements on the Geek Pulse and later could show no improvement for the Geek Pulse Infinity despite heavy performance tweaking.

Not sure why you'd think the production units would not sound as good or even better than the prototype units we have in the field.  The measurements for the Geek Pulse Infinity we're an improvement over the Pulse Xfi, actually.  Feel free to check the LH Labs forums and research the measurements for yourself in the variety of threads that Larry has published them. 
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2015, 04:49:06 PM »

@Type35: I believe a few people here are using Wyrd with GOv1. I haven't tried this yet with the GOv2. The results will probably vary depending upon a computer's USB implementation and personal preferences.

Sometimes tweaking a product to sound better may result in slightly worse or different looking measurements. Depends upon the measurement. Adding tons of feedback is one way to get more extended frequency response and lower distortion, but collapse the soundstage and kill liveliness. Measurements are great tools, but hardly the end-all-be-all to good sound; and there are probably at least a dozen more measurements being used in the development process that aren't published.

Think of published basic measurements as 0-60 times, skidpad G numbers, and 70-0 braking distance. They tell you something about a car, but not whether you will like driving it or not.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2015, 06:10:20 PM »

Personally I prefer the GO without the Wyrd. I prefer the PS Audio PWD with a Wyrd.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2015, 04:56:16 PM »

New updates on the V2 & V2+ will be coming out this afternoon.  Many of the questions you've asked have been directly answered by Larry and we'll be including them in this update.  Also, I'm trying to get him to steal him away for 5 mins and get him on video talking about the latest developments.  More to come.
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