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Re: Re: SF Bay Area mini meet at Wikia HQ (05/02)
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2015, 06:40:17 AM »

Marantz CD Player > Yggy > EC Studio Amp
Rig gave me the chills. I think the way I described it to Craig was "uncomfortably exciting." The pairing of the Yggdrasil with this amp was divine. I really, really can't describe how resolving it is. CEE TEE wasn't as convinced as I am, he felt an information overload. I really enjoyed it, though. I was pretty much enthralled with Natalie Merchant on this rig.

Zana Deux S
Like if you took the SE, increased clarity, made it a tad more neutral in tuning, and bumped resolution up. Not my cup of tea, but I think a lot of others will love this amp. CEE TEE loved it, and he has picky ears. It was hard for me not to want to go back to the EC Studio, though.

Agreed. The Zana Deux is a fantastic amp, but all I could think about was the lovely EC Studio. You really can't go wrong either way though.

Wikia/Steph
Phenomenal fucking hosts. They even fed us and kept us WELL hydrated with the contents of their wonderful drink fridges. A+ for letting us invade their space and for putting up with us dill weeds. Seriously, like 40 guys in a small space that's too warm, we slightly smelled up their offices.

Steph's kid
Stinking adorable.

Seriously, such great hosts. Steph and crew were wonderful.

Adam Findley
Good taste in gear :)

I dunno, it seemed like that guy was fulla Schiit.

(apologies (ish) for the painfully bad pun)
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Re: Re: SF Bay Area mini meet at Wikia HQ (05/02)
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2015, 07:01:16 AM »


Yggy > Eddie Current Red Top

Phenomenal with orthos, but not a good pairing with the HD800 in my opinion. Super controlled but with a tube liquidity, this is my favorite solid state amp. Really good pairing with the Abyss/Code-X/Slants/Audeze cans. I would not use this as my primary amp due to loving the HD800s, but a ridiculous deal.

Liquid Crimson

My favorite Cavalli amp so far. Very, very sexy and a great sound.




Ether

Super big surprise for me! Mr. Speakers' best headphone. I wish it came out before/instead of the Alpha Prime. I thought it was really pleasant out of the Yggy > Ragnarok.



Hugo TT

Having owned the QB76, the QuteHD,  the Peach, the gem, the toucan and a bunch of other Chord gear I was sad that this thing was so mediocre. Seriously, super harsh, unnatural sound and not super duper resolving at all. I honestly thought the base geek out v2 > Leckerton stack was significantly better.




Bill's LCD-2
Getting better! The tuning keeps improving.


I regret not listening to the liquid carbon. It's super little, though and I'm certain I'll be enjoying my preorder when it arrives.
what did you think wasn't right about the hd800 + black widow combo?

Crimson vs Glass?

really I think the ether has no depth but that was with the pulse xfi so maybe I need to give it another shot.

ohhh so chord did use to make good products stop trusting any site that  ever gave  a chord product a good review (there was a lot).

keep it up bill

carbon was good at Canjam should have tried it jude aside.
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Re: Re: SF Bay Area mini meet at Wikia HQ (05/02)
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2015, 11:49:58 AM »

did anyone compare carbon to black widow?
I'm glad the geek out v2 sounds so good.. better than geek out SE makes me want it.. I'm glad I reserved one in case my vi dac ship date gets pushed back
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Re: Re: SF Bay Area mini meet at Wikia HQ (05/02)
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2015, 09:15:49 PM »

Big shout out to Bill for putting this great event together  :money: Great to meet all of you and hear some very wonderful phones!
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2015, 11:48:52 PM »

I didn't listen to much, but here it goes, one at a time:

Hugo TT

The Hugo TT was hooked up to a Liquid Gold. I know how the Liquid Gold sounds like so the Hugo TT has no excuses this time unlike when at CanJam when I only got to hear it as a DAC/amp combination. I really wanted to like the Hugo TT this time around, but I just couldn't. The Hugo TT just isn't my cup of tea. The sound was flat, much like the smaller Hugo. The "Mercer factor" was quite low. The TT wasn't grabbing my attention. Microdynamics, PRAT, etc. were missing.

The TT is warmer than the Hugo, but it seems like all Chord did was wrap the Hugo up with additional bass and warmth to balance its coarse and digital sounding top end and flat microdynamics. Actually the macrodynamics of the TT are probably weak too because I know the Liquid Gold can slam and great impact. The TT's bass quality wasn't very good. The bass texture was smoothed over, but not as syrupy as from the head outs. The juxtaposition of the digital coarse and grainy top end and warm smoother over bass didn't work. Resolution has mediocre, but it's possible I've been ruined in this sense by my last two DACs (PWD2 and AGD M7 with OR5) and now the Yggy (via CD transport).

The Hugo did a disservice to the Cavalli Liquid Gold's capabilities. To be fair, the TT is supposed to be a portable unit, so we should probably give it a break. Unfortunately the, LH Geek V2 left the TT in the dust. Let's not even get into the UK's Hi-Fi industrial complex's attempt to obi-wan us into thinking the Hugo or the Hugo TT can actually compete against desktop DACs.

Bottom line is that I found the TT not emotionally engaging. I have no idea how much the TT costs and I really don't want to know because I might get very angry like Bruce Banner.
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2015, 12:09:09 AM »

I did not test the TT with the amp. I used the HP out with my HD800 since I wanted to compare it as a portable unit against the v2 and Leckerton. I wondered if it was tidal? I tried the same tracks at home with tidal and the GO V2 stack, some vampire weekend, some Glenn Gould, familiar recordings, and I am holding fast to the conclusion.
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2015, 12:15:42 AM »

EDIT: Sorry i was drunk :money:
« Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 08:26:10 AM by Riotvan »
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2015, 12:23:39 AM »

HE-1000

This is the one everyone is talking about. In a nutshell, I found the HE-1000 to be fantastic. Just fantastic.

This unit sounded tighter and more controlled than the ones at CanJam. The HE-1000s at CanJam sounded as if they were still a work in progress. Something that had potential. I know they sounded pretty "loose" at CanJam unless they were plugged in to high power solid-state amps; but this time around, I was able to plug in the HE-1000s in the EC Studio Amp and obtain great results.

I heard HE-1000 from both Yggy/Rag and Yggy/EC Studio combinations. I'll get to the point and do the bullet point thing:
  • Good overall tonal balance. Treble is slightly splashy. Hard to describe. I'm betting not much aberration on an actual measured FR up top; but yes, the treble was slightly splashy. Not tizzy, not strident, not hard or glaring, not etched; but splashy. From the EC Studio, the tubes helped mitigate the splashy treble somewhat. No headphone is perfect, and the HE-1000 is no exception. But what I do is nitpick. I know most people will have not have an issue with the HE-1000's tonal response. But I did want to warn treble sensitive folks here like Hans that this could be a potential issue. In the end, I personally wouldn't be too concerned. If one was so inclined, they could fix it. I know folks like Hans, Bill-p, and Jerg here could fix it. The comforting thing is that there were no issues with all crucial midrange and upper midrange. To put things in context, the HE-1000 is already ahead of the of the HD800, HE-560, etc. in terms of tonal balance and frequency response. Also, if you like laid-back / rolled-off Audeze sound, keep away from HE-1000. HE-1000 is tuned to be neutralish. Even if the production unit sounds the same way, I am confident that I can fix it and make it sound like my modded Jades, of which I loved the FR.
  • The bass is a touch less hefty, but also a bit faster than the Abyss. Like the Abyss, bass seems emphasized from a subjective point of view, but I'm betting it's one of those things where if you put the HE-1000 on the measurement rig, it's going to look flat. The bass emphasis is a bit higher in frequency compared than the Abyss, creeping up into the lower mid-bass area. This is not a bad thing.
  • I prefer the FR (slight tilt downward) of the modded Abyss more. But this is probably not fair because I am comparing HE-1000 to a headphone that I tweaked for my preferences.
  • Speed is better than Abyss across the board. Might be the best overall transient response among all orthos that I have heard to date. HE-6 might be able to match the speed only in the treble, and even then at the cost of  the HE-6's treble etch which I find distracting. STAX fans need not worry. It's no SR-009, but I feel the HE-1000 brings so much more to the table than the SR-009. I'm actually glad that it doesn't sound like the 009. The 009's transient response sounds artificial and fake to me.
  • Soundstage seemed deeper this time around compared to CanJam where is sounded overly wide. I don't know if this is a function of amps, DACs, and recordings used. The Yggy/Theta DACs and EC amps are known for great soundstage depth.
  • Super comfortable. Pads felt luxurious. I think quite an attractive product.
I think I'm really going to like this. Reminds me of my modded Jades, but way more bass slam, almost just as fast, deeper stage, and compatible with an almost infinite variety of normal amps.
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2015, 12:36:20 AM »

LOL, I love that you're starting to use me as the example for treble sensitive types. But also do appreciate the honest heads up. ;)  It does sound like a headphone I'd really like to try, but given what you said and some of my past experiences with HFM, not worth me risking the high cost.
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Re: SF Bay Area Meet Impressions Thead
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2015, 12:47:44 AM »

LOL, I love that you're starting to use me as the example for treble sensitive types. But also do appreciate the honest heads up. ;)  It does sound like a headphone I'd really like to try, but given what you said and some of my past experiences with HFM, not worth me risking the high cost.

Given that we've passed the same headphones and DACs around, I'm getting a good sense of where you are coming from.
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