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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2015, 05:10:06 AM »

Haha, I can see this being slightly polarizing. I believe 95% of people will prefer the transparency into poor recording and 5% will be distracted. It definitely adds to the realism for me, especially with old, mediocre classical recordings.

I agree completely. Even if you hear more 'issues' you get better SS and imaging, better low level information and harmonics like trailing decays and reverbs. Not to mention sounds and noises just pop more from the blackness. It's very involving. It made my Gloria Estefan CD worse but also more enjoyable.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2015, 09:21:25 AM »

I noticed that with the totaldac as wel. It's Way more resolving than the Octave but I m' really surprised (and pleased) that even so-so recorded/mastered recordings improved.  I always thought before that more resolution = bye bye to a lot of music.

BTW my amp is a culprit in my current system . The Sonett is forgiving for the source. Maybe I'll have different opinion is a more tranparent amp.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 11:06:24 AM by Sorrodje »
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2015, 07:17:56 PM »

Hello. Recently new member to Changstar here, posting as the (very) pleased owner of a shiny new Yggy .

I find the "it might reveal flaws in my recordings" argument difficult to stomach. At issue is the fundamental role of a source component in the audio chain.

The end goal of all transports should be simple: perfect reproduction of the analog signal as it came off the mixing/mastering board, no? If accepted, that leaves little room for debate over 'whether' or 'how much' transparency a transport/DAC should provide. The only remaining discussion becomes how perfectly does said transport reproduce that original signal?

IMO if one doesn't like the sound of a recording coming off an ideal, "perfectly transparent" DAC, that's fine. But the role of shaping that sound must come further down the chain – via tubes, EQ, choice of cans/speakers, hell, even cables if you wish. This leaves the source/DAC pure in its aspiration to a Platonic Form of transparent reproduction.

Apologies if that borders on philosophical. In reading the comparisons of various DACs I think we sometimes lose sight of this ultimate (perhaps impossible?) goal.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 08:05:34 PM by dglow »
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2015, 07:24:17 PM »

BTW my amp is a culprit in my current system . The Sonett is forgiving for the source. Maybe I'll have different opinion is a more tranparent amp.

The Sonett IS very forgiving; it's a very enjoyable listen. I've been switching between my modded Sonett & S7; the S7 is comparatively very surgical - lots of inner detail.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2015, 07:29:56 PM »

dGlow, what took you so long!

Anyways, like you, I also find the "it might reveals flaws in my recordings" argument difficult to stomach, especially for a high-end expensive DAC. But I also understand where people are coming from, especially if they have not been exposed to good DACs and came from craptastic implementations of S-D DACs. The fundamental misunderstanding is that what many people think is "detailed" or "resolving".

High resolution is high resolution. It is always better. To illustrate this point, see pictures below.

Typical decent D-S DAC


Typical Sabre DAC


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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2015, 07:34:03 PM »

The Sonett IS very forgiving; it's a very enjoyable listen. I've been switching between my modded Sonett & S7; the S7 is comparatively very surgical - lots of inner detail.

Yep too much forgiving . I realized that with the Totaldac. I was stunned by the result with the Stax rig ( SRM1-mk2/SR404) but not as much with the Sonett/HD800. maybe it's a matter of synergy but i think more than the Sonett is not transparent enough. It tends to make the HD800 sound like an uber HD600. it's great but it's not what I'm after .  Time to upgrade to the Stratus.   

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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2015, 07:54:30 PM »

Interesting that the Sabre one has the largest file size. Dunno why that amuses me...

I mean, uh, results are inconclusive. Further samples are required.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2015, 08:02:35 PM »

yes, I plan to look into these resolution examples much, much closer with the door closed so I'm not disturbed...I want to make sure that I have a deep understanding of the differences.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2015, 08:15:33 PM »

ygg is also jpeg quality?
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2015, 08:26:16 PM »

Dat ass tho.
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