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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 11:23:54 PM »



Disagree. Buy this DAC then pay Craig $3k for a nice tube buffer and pocket the additional $5-45K you just saved.

Wait. What? My bank account gently weeps. My Yggy is supposed to arrive on Thursday, it's probably for the best that I'm going to be gone all weekend to let it warm up. popcorn
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2015, 11:47:25 PM »

Not disagreeing, but less than stellar recordings actually sound better on Yggy than other DACs for the following reasons:
  • Yggy still manages to extract more low level information than I thought was previously there. Low level information should not necessarily be confused with "detail".
  • Yggy doesn't impart crap, i.e. digital hash, glare, weirdness, temporal grain, artificial warmth or syrup to counteract digital nasties, congest or compress difficult passages in music, etc.
For example, take a recording that is bright and over-compressed. The last thing I would want is a badly implemented D-S DAC making the brightness even worse with glare and hashy shit, flattening the already flat sound, and removing any existing sense of bass texture.

I agree. However, I have this brightly mastered Gloria Estefan CD I use for testing. The Yggy doesn't impart artifacts or nastiness on the master, but it does offer more clarity to hear issues and the tonal contrast (brightness in this case) more obviously. That's why I call it ruthlessly honest/enlightening. So it doesn't make a bad recording sound worse by addition. But, it can make it sound worse by subtraction because it removes a veil that had previously hidden more flaws and recording issues. You start noticing other aberrations in the mixing and mic'ing. If anyone has a problem with getting greater transparency from a DAC, they should be looking elsewhere or saving their money on lesser gear in my opinion.

A DAC should be about truth, and this one is the most honest I've heard yet. Not by small margin either.

So I guess I'm saying it does both, making them better and worse at the same time. Depends on your perspective.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2015, 02:08:27 AM »

I see it more as enlightening rather than ruthless. It's neat to hear how the engineers made a recording - that is if you have an appreciation for that, as long the presentation is natural.

I'll take enlightening/ruthless/honest over $4000 princess-ultrasmooth-PCM1704-special or dalek-timbre-pseudo-detail-monster DACs.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2015, 02:54:27 AM »

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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2015, 02:56:15 AM »


FYI. 122 hours now. Yggy is starting to show signs of its true magic. I figure tomorrow.


Just passed the 100th hour and anxious to get to where true magic lies.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2015, 03:08:14 AM »

Dinged 125 before my first interruption. 1-2 seconds to switch it to a pure sine wave UPS so it has 83 hours of uninterrupted time on before the may 2 mini meet.


edited time: it was actually less than 2 seconds to switch it over.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2015, 03:56:23 AM »

Dinged 125 before my first interruption. 30 seconds to switch it to a pure sine wave UPS so it has 83 hours of uninterrupted time on before the may 2 mini meet.
Thank you!!!!
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2015, 04:05:19 AM »

I see it more as enlightening rather than ruthless. It's neat to hear how the engineers made a recording - that is if you have an appreciation for that, as long the presentation is natural.

I'll take enlightening/ruthless/honest over $4000 princess-ultrasmooth-PCM1704-special or dalek-timbre-pseudo-detail-monster DACs.

Fair enough, I wasn't clear enough in the context of being ruthless with respect to honesty and transparency. Not brutal offensive sound. Will correct the lexical ambiguity now.

Edit-Nvm, I did say "ruthlessly honest" in my OP. I'll update the followup.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2015, 04:11:44 AM »

Haha, I can see this being slightly polarizing. I believe 95% of people will prefer the transparency into poor recording and 5% will be distracted. It definitely adds to the realism for me, especially with old, mediocre classical recordings.
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Re: Schiit Yggdrasil Review/Impressions thread (production)
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