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Re: Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon - pre-order
« Reply #150 on: September 12, 2015, 08:32:19 PM »

A lot of people have been wondering about just this very thing. (I think Hands was the first one who asked about it almost immediately after the SchiitShow.) 

There's about a 95% chance that I'll pick up a Mojo2 at the end of the month when I send in my Gungnir in for the multibit upgrade. If I do, I'll make sure to compare it to the Val 2 directly with the HD800 and HD650.

And yep, if a mod could split this off into a Mojo2 discussion thread - or Mojo2/Liquid Carbon comparison thread, that would rock.


I just hunted down this thread looking for this exact info. Guess I might be on the jumping bandwagon as well.
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Re: Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon - pre-order
« Reply #151 on: September 16, 2015, 03:43:47 AM »

Cavalli updated the carbon thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/762722/cavalli-audio-liquid-carbon-now-available

First a comment on the first update.  I am really digging the look of the black pcb. Not that I'm prejudiced against the green pcb board but that black pcb board is stylish and it shows the attention to detail that cavalli puts into his work, even the budget stuff, as it lines up with the design of the exterior.  Real Steve Jobs "attention to detail" shit. Wondet if cavalli will hire a brittish guy with a thesaurus to explain to us why its so awsome.

Second machining the amp panels out of a chunk of aluminum rather than pouring the metal into a mold, on a budget amp! :-DD  Don't know how much more expensive it is, but I think more work goes into the former process.

Both updates impress me, while doing these things is common for some products (*cough IPHONE *cough) I would think that a "budget amp" wouldn't have it just because I think the bottom line wouldn't allow it.  Overall cool to know.


*other stuff too but meh to lazy to double check other stuff.
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Re: Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon - pre-order
« Reply #152 on: September 16, 2015, 06:43:38 AM »

Second machining the amp panels out of a chunk of aluminum rather than pouring the metal into a mold, on a budget amp! :-DD  Don't know how much more expensive it is, but I think more work goes into the former process.

Looks like the panels are simply cut and CNC'd from a thick Al sheet. The milling is not particularly extensive... only two maybe three bits used. All things considered, not that expensive as your costs are basically just machine shop time.

Casting molten metal into that shape would be much more costly. Initial investment would be very high in the creation of the molds. Heating metal up to molten state is also relatively expensive (consider this: it is sometimes cheaper to transport molten metal from the refinery to the manufacturing/casting plant because it costs so much to reheat and melt). Casting quality in a thin sheet is also quite terrible and you can have porosity or warping or slag tainting the material. Even if you could get the casting to come out relatively clean and uniform (more $$), the crystal structure is gonna be crapola and inconsistent because the molten material that hits the surface first cools very quickly while the remainder cools more slowly.  You can fix that by with post heat treatments, again more $$. Finally, you'll have to actually finish the surface, so you're paying machine shop time anyways.

Die casting would be better/more consistent quality (basically a metal injection mold), but that initial setup cost is even higher. Drop forging or similar could be cheaper in huge quantities, but you'd still need to machine the holes.
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Re: Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon - pre-order
« Reply #153 on: September 16, 2015, 03:29:06 PM »

You can still make small molds of appropriate size, then laser the appropriate holes, and slice into sheets.
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