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Claritas

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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 08:49:38 AM »

I probably wasn't clear enough in my OP. I'm not really asking, "What's the minimum period?"

I'm asking, "What are some more versatile set ups that don't cost well over $1,000 that a broad audience of readers would respect?"
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 11:45:02 AM »

I have no faith in the O2/Odac combo or the GO, what I would consider as a decent good set up (slightly north of 1000$) is the Mjolnir amp with at least a DAC such as the Pioneer U-05 -/- Denon DA 300 -/- Teac UD-301.

As an integrated solution the latest from Grace (m920) and Benchmark (Dac2) are not bad at all (and definitely better than the earlier series), though they will not drive with ease certain planars.
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 10:07:07 PM »

I probably wasn't clear enough in my OP. I'm not really asking, "What's the minimum period?"

I'm asking, "What are some more versatile set ups that don't cost well over $1,000 that a broad audience of readers would respect?"

hello,

i'm somewhat confused as to why you feel this wasn't addressed.

my entry level combo = $466USD without S&H or taxes.

mid-level combo = $1,266 without S&H or taxes.

both of them have all the available connectivity options and the ability to compare SS and valve amps with, i think, an easy to use A/B interface.
i'm also thinking that these combos offer enough flexibility to drive most cans.

as to the all in ones (just a cost comparison):

Grace Design m920 = $1,995USD (retail)
Benchmark DAC2 HGC = $1,995USD (@ http://benchmarkmedia.com)

i believe that Tyll is using the following for his reference system:

AURALiC Taurus MKII = $1899USD
AURALiC Vega Digital Audio Processor = $3495USD
total = $5394USD

if i'm missing something, please advise.
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 12:51:05 AM »

hello,

i'm somewhat confused as to why you feel this wasn't addressed.

my entry level combo = $466USD without S&H or taxes.

mid-level combo = $1,266 without S&H or taxes.

if i'm missing something, please advise.

I find it hard to believe that your entry set up would satisfy somewhat snobbier readers, and your mid-level set up ($1,300) costs too much for an ordinary guy who wants to write reviews. Is there nothing in between?

Several good recommendations have been offered so far. I hope for more.
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 01:53:32 AM »

hello,

of course there is, you drop either the SS or the valve amp from the mid-range and ignore the SYS.

when you asked for flexibility, i thought you were looking for multiple amplifier topographies in order to provide a broader perspective in your proposed reviews. my bad.  :money:
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 03:24:22 AM »

On the contrary, your good--it's an interesting idea. Thanks!

I really think we should forget the M2U/M2U idea because of snobby readers.

So your recommendation is Bifrost Uber-Uber and Asgard 2 ($768 + tx, &c. = ~$850). OK, that's plausible.

I wonder if ODAC or Modi 2U and Asgard 2 (~$450) would be good enough for the snobs. Doubtful. I think people want to see that the reviewer has made a substantial enough investment in his system.
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 04:03:44 AM »

hello,

i agree that the entry level Schitt may be a bit down market for the snobs. if only because it uses wallwarts.

this is also the where i think the ODAC might be a fail as it is USB powered.

self contained, with an internal power supply, and a "real" power cord i think would be less "hobbyist."  ;)
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2015, 05:28:50 PM »

Budget setup... I wonder if anyone still uses the headphone socket on their hifi integrated amplifier?

Yep, I know, being a specialist ear-fi community, that is probably going to far, and they are all going to be different, so a benchmark is hard if not impossible. However, many people would like to have good headphones without spending more money on ancillary equipment.

By the way: I blame my integrated amp (Cyrus) for getting me started on all this stuff. It was an internet-down night  in which I unplugged my 'phones from the PC interface (Echo Audiofire) and carried them over to the hifi, only to experience an immediate, "wow: these phones are capable of so much more than I thought!"

I definitely still do - but mainly because I am supremely poor at the moment. 

I'll have to get the specs on the exact model and year of the receiver I'm using, but if y'all feel like having a heart attack, this is what I did in college, not only for 'critical listening' (lulz) but for 'mixing' as well:

Old Mac Laptop Line Out > AUX on Old (specs when I get home) Receiver > Headphone Out to (600ohm!) K240 and/or some old Mirage bookshelf speakers.

Annnnd... that's what I use to this day.
So...
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2015, 11:38:48 AM »

Heart... attacked.

J/K. That's pretty similar to how I used to roll. I swear that U2's Joshua Tree still sounds best that way.
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Re: Acceptable listening set ups for review purposes
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2015, 09:29:38 PM »

Hi All,
Love this discussion.

One thing I believe that is not being discussed, are those of us who are spaced challenged. What I mean is, because of work commitments we are constrained to live in very small spaces that are affordable and close to our work, and we are subject to moving every six months to a year.

I know the nature of this endeavor is scaled much smaller than a normal home stereo system, but things can get out of hand. Nature abhors a vacuum. I think a road warrior setup based around ease of use, customer service, reliability, durability and flexibility with choice of headphones, would be welcomed.

I am not interested in any portable gear. When I go out I don’t have a laptop, tablet or whatever. I do set my phone to vibrate and don’t own earbuds. I use the time away from my desk or work environment to disconnect and connect to the physical world around me. When I’m at my desk at home I want the best possible music within my constraints for space and money. I have no need for a portable or permanent setup at my work.

The one thing I would love to change up are the headphones. Having an amp able to drive a broad range of HPs at their proper levels would be really nice.

Thoughts??
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