CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS

  • December 31, 2015, 09:10:34 AM
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 10

Author Topic: Bill-p HE-560 mod  (Read 11836 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Bill-p

  • Would you like graphs with that?
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +49/-14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 336
  • Midrange-head
Bill-p HE-560 mod
« on: December 30, 2014, 07:53:17 PM »
BASELINE MEASUREMENT HERE: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2025.msg57297.html#msg57297
Bill-P Measurements: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2025.msg61402.html#msg61402

Well, I have a crazy idea... and it may not work, but what the hey.

So what I'm thinking is that if someone is willing to do this, please send your HE-560 in for Marv to measure, then after Marv is done measuring that pair, he'll send it off to me for modding (and I'll document the modding process, of course). After that, I'll send it back to him for another bout of measurement before the headphone gets sent back to its poor owner.

This way we'll have the same sample for consistent measurements, and since my mod was audibly different from stock (at least to me), I suspect it'll be interesting to see on a graph...

The mod is fully reversible, of course. Save for the ear pads... so you may have to purchase another pair of ear pads ($39) if you'd like to go back to complete stock.

Disclaimer: credits to Jerg for his mods. I followed some of his ideas, and then deviated some to create mine, so if you see any similarity afterward, that's why.  p:/
« Last Edit: April 13, 2015, 02:32:24 PM by purr1n »
Logged

Bill-p

  • Would you like graphs with that?
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +49/-14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 336
  • Midrange-head
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 07:55:57 PM »
Reserved for photos and instructions (if needing more space).
Logged

anetode

  • an objectivist trapped in a subjectivist's body
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +178/-7
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1067
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 07:58:04 PM »
If you and Marv are down with this plan then I have an HE-560 lying around. Go hog wild with it.
Logged
Love isn't always on time.

Marvey

  • The Man For His Time And Place
  • Master
  • Pirate
  • *****
  • Brownie Points: +555/-33
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6698
  • Captain Plankton and MOT: Eddie Current
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 08:06:13 PM »
I'm up for it - at least to get proper deltas. Bill-Ps mod was not bright or shrill at all.
Logged

anetode

  • an objectivist trapped in a subjectivist's body
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +178/-7
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1067
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2014, 08:10:41 PM »
Cool, I'll have it out to you by early next week.

Bill - best of luck!  :)p4
Logged
Love isn't always on time.

Bill-p

  • Would you like graphs with that?
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +49/-14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 336
  • Midrange-head
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2014, 08:14:18 PM »
That's great. Thanks, guys!

I hope I can fix the bass "bloat" issue that Marv heard. A part of it was my DAC/amp chain, but the headphone was at fault somewhat, too.

It wasn't as tight as the Code-X, though the Code-X was somewhat brighter.
Logged

Marvey

  • The Man For His Time And Place
  • Master
  • Pirate
  • *****
  • Brownie Points: +555/-33
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6698
  • Captain Plankton and MOT: Eddie Current
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 08:18:41 PM »
Quote from: Bill-p on December 30, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
That's great. Thanks, guys!

I hope I can fix the bass "bloat" issue that Marv heard. A part of it was my DAC/amp chain, but the headphone was at fault somewhat, too.

It wasn't as tight as the Code-X, though the Code-X was somewhat brighter.

Bloat thing was probably power limitations from your amp and the Neko DAC. Pretty much went away after you chucked the Neko and replaced it with the Sonic Frontiers TransDAC, which is a pretty fantastic DAC BTW.
Logged

zerodeefex

  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +123/-4
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1060
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 08:19:55 PM »
Bill, do you want to borrow my Klone and Code-X for the process and for comparison?

If you ever sell that transDAC, I want to get my hands on it :). The TransDAC > Klone would probably be sublime.
Logged

Bill-p

  • Would you like graphs with that?
  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +49/-14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 336
  • Midrange-head
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 08:37:01 PM »
Quote from: marvey on December 30, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
Bloat thing was probably power limitations from your amp and the Neko DAC. Pretty much went away after you chucked the Neko and replaced it with the Sonic Frontiers TransDAC, which is a pretty fantastic DAC BTW.

Well, I must admit, the TransDAC is surprisingly good after pairing with the Ciunas + Wyrd. I was using the Gamma2 and some generic SPDIF converter before, and it sounded "just okay".

And you're right. It's audibly better than both the Gamma2 and Neko as far as bass is concerned.

Quote from: zerodeefex on December 30, 2014, 08:19:55 PM
Bill, do you want to borrow my Klone and Code-X for the process and for comparison?

If you ever sell that transDAC, I want to get my hands on it :). The TransDAC > Klone would probably be sublime.

If you're willing to lend me those, I'd be very grateful. I kind of liked the control and depth of the Code-X.

I didn't try the Klone though, so it would be wonderful if I could have the chance now.

And yeah, will definitely let you know. TransDAC is indeed a surprisingly good DAC. I was thinking it was neck to neck with the Neko before, but after slotting Ciunas into my chain, there was no comparison. It's lacking details and refinements as opposed to Yggy, but hey... :p
Logged

knerian

  • Mate
  • Pirate
  • ****
  • Brownie Points: +26/-4
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 328
Re: HE-560 mod
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2014, 12:08:19 AM »
What is a code-x?  Is it a modded HE-560?
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 10
« previous next »