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The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« on: December 23, 2014, 11:11:32 PM »

Changstar is growing and we're getting a more regular crew. Since I've seen questions such as "Should I buy X or Y device?" followed by completely off base advice quite a bit, I thought I'd create a normal, people friendly thread.


I have pretty extensive access to smartphones, especially of the Android flagship variety; although I do spend quite a bit of time using iPhones as well to stay current on what iOS offers. If you're willing to provide a little context on your needs and general usage patterns, I can help you pick a device that's right for you!


Here are some useful questions to answer when posting for advice (feel free to disregard and ask questions free form as well):
  • What country are you in and what carrier do you prefer? This helps me determine availability as well as radio support/performance.
  • What price range are you considering/how price sensitive are you?
  • How many years do you go between upgrades?
  • If in the US, are you willing to pick up a subsidized phone attached to a 2 year contract?
  • How durable does your device need to be? Are drops a regular occurrence? Do you have kids or pets?
  • How important is customizability?
  • How important is ease of use? How comfortable are you with new technology/interfaces?
  • What are you using currently?
  • Do you have a lot of music and/or other digital content associated with one platform or another? Are you married to one platform or another for any particular reason?
  • How long do you spend away from outlets during the day? How important is multi day battery life?
  • Do you have size considerations? Are you comfortable with a large phone, or is one handed use important?
  • Do you need the fastest, baddest ass device?
  • How often do you take pics and in what conditions? Are you an avid smartphone snapper and value good IQ? Do you want to mess with settings or have your pictures just come out great?
  • Any other specific use cases you want to be considered? Do you attend a lot of concerts and need to get a good audio recording? Do you film adventures with your smartphone?
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 01:51:34 AM »

I think my next phone will be the HTC One M8, but I'm not up to speed on a lot of the newer offerings.

So, I'll take you up on your offer:

1) US
2) n/a
3) 2
4) I always get 2 year contracts
5) Drops are rare to never...I don't use a case on my GS4 and it's been fine.
6) I use Nova Launcher.  Rooted my phone once in the day, but Nova is enough to tide me over on the customization front.
7) Android.  Know it.  Love it.
8) Galaxy S4
9) All of my music is on my phone in mp3 format. 
10) Always have an outlet handy, but would like to be able to make it through the day without needing one.
11) Galaxy Note is too large.  Beyond that, not too picky.
12) Nope, but I hate lag.
13) Pics on occasion.  I have my DSLR for serious stuff, though.
14) I'm a pretty basic user.  Priorities are Music/ Good Looks/ Battery Life /Nice screen, in that order.

Thanks!
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 05:21:13 AM »

How did you end up getting on with the big honking Sony?
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 06:09:59 AM »

I think my next phone will be the HTC One M8, but I'm not up to speed on a lot of the newer offerings.

Thank you for taking a chance on this thread! I am assuming you are on either ATT or T-Mobile (I'll edit the first post to ask for people to specify their carrier preference; I had a brain fart apparently). I'll change my recommendation if you are on Verizon, Sprint, or one of their respective MVNOs.

I honestly am hesitant to recommend that you upgrade from an S4 to the HTC One M8 (or any current flagship). Going from the S4 GPe (Google Play edition) to the HTC One M8 GPe, there is little noticeable daily difference outside of a few items:
  • Slightly better headphone output
  • an improved gaming experience
  • Better front facing speakers
  • a marginal improvement in overall snappiness


Honestly, in your situation, I'd recommend the Sony Xperia Z3 with two caveats:

1) CES is around the corner followed my MWC in March which means new, interesting options
2) You'd be getting an incremental upgrade, rather than a generational leap forward


Here are a couple of reasons why I think the Z3 might be right for you:
  • It's pretty without being over the top. It's glass all around and you mentioned you're careful with your devices.
  • The audio quality is decent and there is still a MicroSD slot
  • The battery life is fucking phenomenal
  • It sounds like you don't need a QHD (2560x1440) screen to enjoy your phone. The Sony display is pretty nice in practice for a 1080p display. The only complaint I would lob against is is that they tend to skew toward a slightly cooler color temperature than I like. If you're not married to 6500K. You can adjust this in the settings to get the color temperature more reasonable, but whites skew blue rather than yellow
That being said, your S4 is still 90% as good as most of the devices out there and is super durable to boot. The replaceable battery means you can keep a spare easily. The Sony is really the only stand out device in the class you mentioned that I'd consider in your shoes. The other contenders are:
  • the Moto X 2014 which I discounted due to a completely shit headphone output and lack of microSD support
  • the HTC One M8 which is a solid device but not improved enough to warrant the move from the S4 in practice
  • the Note4/Nexus 6 which are both too big
  • the S5 which I can't honestly recommend to you given your S4
  • the LG G3 which (if you can play with it in person) might be a contender but I discounted due to being slightly too large to hold comfortably
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 06:13:13 AM »

How did you end up getting on with the big honking Sony?

I liked it but it was ultimately compromised quite a bit. Lollipop really cleans up android for big phones and I ultimately wasn't convinced large phones were great until I had the Nexus 6. I will revisit the Sony Z Ultra with Lollipop and let you know if it's improved.

It's fucking awesome to watch movies and consume content on a big ass screen. It's also super nice to play games that you'd normally have to have a tablet to play comfortably. After living with such big devices for a while, I can see the appeal.
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2014, 07:52:32 AM »

  • What country are you in? This helps me determine availability as well as radio support/performance.
  • What price range are you considering/how price sensitive are you?
  • How many years do you go between upgrades?
  • If in the US, are you willing to pick up a subsidized phone attached to a 2 year contract?
  • How durable does your device need to be? Are drops a regular occurrence? Do you have kids or pets?
  • How important is customizability?
  • How important is ease of use? How comfortable are you with new technology/interfaces?
  • What are you using currently?
  • Do you have a lot of music and/or other digital content associated with one platform or another? Are you married to one platform or another for any particular reason?
  • How long do you spend away from outlets during the day? How important is multi day battery life?
  • Do you have size considerations? Are you comfortable with a large phone, or is one handed use important?
  • Do you need the fastest, baddest ass device?
  • How often do you take pics and in what conditions? Are you an avid smartphone snapper and value good IQ? Do you want to mess with settings or have your pictures just come out great?
  • Any other specific use cases you want to be considered? Do you attend a lot of concerts and need to get a good audio recording? Do you film adventures with your smartphone?

I'm not quite in the market for a new phone just yet, but would like to keep my eyes/options open.

1) Canada
2) poor grad student with a mortgage and car payments, though at least the car payments will be done by summer
3) I upgrade rarely. My current phone is a Galaxy Nexus which was a hand-me-down from my brother. Before that, it was a crappy Nokia flip phone which I only got because I switched carriers. Before that, an ancient Siemens phone that I used for maybe 8 years.
4) N/A
5) No kids, no pets, I'm careful with my toys and will probably get a case to protect it from bumps
6) I like to have some customizability, but value functionality out of the box
7) I'm pretty quick to pick up new tech
8 ) Samsung Galaxy Nexus for a couple months now; I'm pretty new to smartphones in general
9) I have about 500 gb run primarily through JRiver on my pc laptop. I don't do Apple
10) I'm usually near an outlet, but would like to have a phone that can last at least 2 days if not in active use
11) I would like the phone to be easily pocketable; I find the Nexus a bit on the big side (especially with a case)
12) while I am not immune to new toy syndrome, I value functionality and longevity more
13) the only things I take pictures of are items that I need to fix around the house, so I can go to home depot and show them what I need
14) my old Fuze and Clip+ are dying, so I'll probably want to use the smartphone as dap as well. Oh and maybe gps and tether if I ever get a data plan
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 07:44:31 PM »

I liked it but it was ultimately compromised quite a bit. Lollipop really cleans up android for big phones and I ultimately wasn't convinced large phones were great until I had the Nexus 6. I will revisit the Sony Z Ultra with Lollipop and let you know if it's improved.

It's fucking awesome to watch movies and consume content on a big ass screen. It's also super nice to play games that you'd normally have to have a tablet to play comfortably. After living with such big devices for a while, I can see the appeal.
Thanks!

I'm actually on Verizon if that makes any difference.

I'll give the Sony a look. 

Like you said, my GS4 is still holding up well.  I just tend to change my phones out every two years.  I've still got 6 months left on this one, and a lot can change between now and then.
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2014, 04:37:38 AM »

Sad as it is, I have a iPhone 3G. Still. It can do phone calls, text, how slowly my apps, do, take. But it's paid for. Many times over. Was going to go for the i6 Plus. Unexpected expenses. Perhaps the i7 next year?  Or fuck it, and get a Jitterbug!  :)p13 :)p13 poo
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2014, 06:03:26 AM »

I'm not quite in the market for a new phone just yet, but would like to keep my eyes/options open.

If you find the Galaxy Nexus large, you only really have four choices on the market right now:

Moto X 2013. A great device but no MicroSD slot might prevent you from using it as your primary DAP.

iPhone 6 regular. You're not a fan of Apple so this is out.

Sony Z3 compact. This device is great, but a bit out of your price range ($500)

Moto G 4G/LTE (first generation). This is what I recommend for you. It's affordable, has a MicroSD slot, and is a great, durable basic device. It's not the fastest or the flashiest, but it has decent battery life and is much cheaper than the other options.




Thanks!


I'm actually on Verizon if that makes any difference.


I'll give the Sony a look. 


Like you said, my GS4 is still holding up well.  I just tend to change my phones out every two years.  I've still got 6 months left on this one, and a lot can change between now and then.


The Z3V on Verizon is a weird hybrid of the Z2 and the Z3. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who holds onto their device for more than a year. I'd wait for April, post MWC and upgrade once Verizon has more interesting flagships. If you can get over the size, the LG G3 might be for you, but it's still not really a perfect fit given what you've shared about the Note 4 being too big.





Sad as it is, I have a iPhone 3G. Still. It can do phone calls, text, how slowly my apps, do, take. But it's paid for. Many times over. Was going to go for the i6 Plus. Unexpected expenses. Perhaps the i7 next year?  Or fuck it, and get a Jitterbug!  :)p13 :)p13 poo


Are you happy with it? Get the latest iPhone when you're ready to buy if you don't mind paying the Apple premium. I suspect you are married to iTunes and that ecosystem :) . It's easy to use and you like it, why rock the boat? Switching cost for going from Android to Apple and vice versa is high.
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Re: The all purpose smartphone advice thread - regular folks welcome
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2014, 07:29:36 AM »

Something to ponder. Not totally happy with iTunes. The ecosystem... Apple's seems to be fine. The Earths's ????
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