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The need for at least one bad recording....
« on: November 26, 2011, 07:43:18 AM »

All too often audiophiles brag that their expensive rig or headphone can play "Jazz at the Pawnshop" with superb dynamic, micro detail and much aplomb.

Well....sadly, that recording, as well as many other audiophile favorites tend to sound great out of almost every single system, rig, headphone and speaker out there. What's the use of demo'ing something that sounds relatively the same on every other system?

One way to really test your system is to use a bad recording. It doesn't have to be horrendous but a normal, mediocre recording will do nicely.

For vinyl folks, take for instance, a gray label pressing of Frank Sinatra's "Song's For Swingin' Lovers". A great record if there ever was one but the recording quality is good...not amazing. Play the second track. Can you hear Sinatra breathe a sigh of relief at the end? If not...your system is lacking detail and resolution!

For CD lovers and Digital Downloaders, try out a regular issue of Bill Evan's "Portrait In Jazz". Have you ever noticed all the high pitched noise in some of the tracks? How about them drop outs? If you have no idea what I am talking about....your system is lacking in resolution and detail.

While it never hurts to get your hearing checked by a professional audiologist, a simple, normal recording can do wonderful things for your system and for your benefit. I bet those $2,000 zebra wood headphones don't sound that amazing anymore...do they? ;)
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 08:21:52 AM »

Need more popcorn!
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 08:28:53 AM »

It feel the same way about Patricia Barber Modern Cool Track #7. The audio engineer behind it is awesome, but the techniques used on the track make it sound great on everything including a boom-box. The use of this track is basically a masturbation on "Wow, did you hear that awesome slammin' bass!"

Naive Melody from Talking Heads is good one for evaluation. It has a lot of resolution. And if something is off with your setup, you will definitely hear it as sibilance, muddyness, or worse.
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 09:05:30 AM »

A few albums I've  noticed sound good no matter how a pair of my orthos are damped and so I've decided are bad for testing

Chris Isaak- San Francisco Days.  Although it's good for testing whether a phone has enough treble and "air"
The National - all their albums sound great on just about everything, except Ultra Violet has some reverb which can get pronounced if phones have that kind of sound too
TV on the Radio- As long as the phones are in the ballpark, they sound good. 
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 07:52:44 PM »

I've found Led Zeppelin fairly useful sometimes.  The guitars are right on the edge, they're supposed to have bite but not be harsh, there's lots of treble energy in cymbals that can sound crashy or dull, and there ought to be a richness in the bass and guitar that can easily go missing on some phones that are light in the lower mids or bass. 

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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 10:28:43 PM »

Zeppelin is a really good as a test (and listening) tracks. Good resolution, but probably because it isn't overproduced and mixed over 100 times.
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 02:14:18 AM »

Zeppelin is a really good as a test (and listening) tracks. Good resolution, but probably because it isn't overproduced and mixed over 100 times.

Yup but it depends what mastering you are using...
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 08:40:40 AM »

Zeppelin is a really good as a test (and listening) tracks. Good resolution, but probably because it isn't overproduced and mixed over 100 times.

Yup but it depends what mastering you are using...

Some ancient CDs I bought in the early 90s. Are they any good?
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 04:04:58 PM »

Zeppelin is a really good as a test (and listening) tracks. Good resolution, but probably because it isn't overproduced and mixed over 100 times.

Yup but it depends what mastering you are using...

Some ancient CDs I bought in the early 90s. Are they any good?

Easy to check....

Look on the back of the CD case and look for the apologetic notice that is was mastered from analog tape and may contain imperfections and noise. If it says something to that effect, you have the good ones...the Barry Diament masters.
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Re: The need for at least one bad recording....
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2011, 10:11:15 AM »

i know you guys like cd and vinyl, but ever tried tape? i don't listen to much of it but one tape in particular, the phantom of the opera with the original cast sounded really good to me. had good dynamics to it even if it had the typical background hiss of tapes. this was on a kenwood tape deck i found at goodwill too, hooked up to my 1972 Sansui 5000x receiver at the time. nothing too special. you can make fun of me. i like some tapes. i haven't tried 8-track though yet lol.
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