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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 06:50:41 AM »
Well, I owned the SR-007 MK1 (a great pair, I believe S1 replaced his pair with them) and the KGSSHV.

I no longer own them but I do have HD600s (that should tell you something).
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 06:59:34 AM »
I still do not see any headphones (besides Philips Fidelio X2) that can replace HD600/650.

One good thing is that it seems Sennheiser won't discontinue these two for a while. (from a new packaging they got). I still have extra spare HD600 and HD650 somewhere on a storage space in my house... I got them when I was afraid of these two being discontinued (it was heavily rumored several years ago).
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 07:29:19 AM »
Yup. that's always good news when a manufacturer like Sennheiser keeps alive its headphones more than a few month. A potential buyer can be sure its purchase won't be outdated a few weeks or month later.  Even 300 or 400$ is already a lot of money for most of us so spending that kind of money in a durable thing is a very good point.

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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 10:26:56 AM »
Last night I was listening to some not-very-nice buzzing violin high notes on my HD600s and getting rather worried. I got them from Amazon USA, and carried to India for me by a friend-in-law. I'm sure that warranty claims would be, at the least, a hassle. I swapped the channels; the slightly improved sound I put down to my known-unbalanced hearing, but the buzzing also moved, so this could not be a single-driver issue. I moved on to another album: sound clear and correct, and the fault must have been with that recording. Phew. It is not a recording that I've had for long, so I can't say for sure that the HD600s revealed it where others wouldn't.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 11:08:32 AM »
The obsolescence question really lies in the issue of bass. Bass quality on the HD600 can be easily bested by most orthos, yet you might end up losing some top end. I replaced my HD650 with a Paradox and that meant trading midrange distortion for better and more bass.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2014, 02:06:13 AM »
Quote from: marvey on November 18, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
In fact, I am going to fucking buy an HD600 right now.

That's hilarious, well played.

I just bought an HD800 and HD558, but if you average it, it comes to HD679. pretty close.

I want to hear an HD600 one of these days.
Maybe when my modded YH100 is fixed I'll do a temporary trade with someone.
But for now I can take your guys word for it that it doesn't suck :)

Speaking of price: performance, these old Yamaha YH100's really are a pretty amazing value. (they used to go for $150)
I always thought the YH100 bass sounded basically flat to 20 Hz.
It's nice to see my findings confirmed with data since low frequencies are hard for me to hear.

I thought the Shure SRH840 were flat-ish but couldn't tell there was a massive bass hump until I cranked up the volume one day.

Quote from: Hroðulf on November 19, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
The obsolescence question really lies in the issue of bass.

There may be a reason that there's an abundance of dynamic U-shaped fart cannons on the market.
My theory is that it's an overcompensation for high bass distortion in lower range headphones. (non-flagship)
I haven't heard many headphones with less than 1% measured distortion in the bass, other than the SR-007, which is probably one reason why I was so floored by them when I heard them.
Anyways, some of that depends on the listening volume etc. So YMMV.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2014, 03:29:09 AM »
My first Senn was an HD 650, when it first came out.  Have never been able to decide if I like the 600 more or less. I still have the 650. I get bored with it from time to time. Then I like my K701's, the originals. But after a week I hear what I hate about them. Same thing happens with speakers. Sometimes I go back to a pair of of Koss Pro 4AA's, my first headphone, which started me on this crazy journey. I'm hypothesizing here, but I think I like to change the sound to change the presentation of the music. Sometimes I think it's a mood thing. Doesn't matter really, it's the enjoyment of the music that matters most.

One of my favorite memories is listening to "Julia" off the White Album at a Bay Area meet on the EC Electra on a Stax 007 with Anax on a 009. If my memory still works. Anyway,  John was in the room! 

I have to agree that headphones have improved over the years, but all of them still are a work in progress. Price is not necessarily any indicator of SQ or if YOU like it. I just got some Senn HD239's for my iPad. I love them. Best sound ever? No but for work, they are great.

I think the 600's are one of the best cans still. Perfect? No. But no cans I've heard are.

For those who care the Pliny was 5 days old. Great stuff!!  :)p1
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2014, 03:49:06 AM »
 
Quote from: dreamwhisper on November 20, 2014, 02:06:13 AM
That's hilarious, well played.

I just bought an HD800 and HD558, but if you average it, it comes to HD679. pretty close.



Ehhh dream, that's closer to the HD 650.... :)p13. I'm not at all sure that's the SQ Marvey wants...but who knows  ;)
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2014, 03:36:22 AM »
I sleep with mine on a lot. They are extremely comfortable and stay on my head. The price/quality ratio means it's not the apocalypse if I were to, say, roll over on them (I don't think I would ever try to fall asleep with the HD800's on).

Sometimes, they are just less stressful to put on and listen to than the HD800's. The size/fit of the orthos (and even a lot of the Beyers and Audio Technicas) is too much of an issue for me in most cases.

Definitely a worthy backup.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2014, 09:36:26 AM »
In terms of neutrality, what do you guys think is a better choice between the HD 600 and the UERM. I've never heard an IEM but reading the thread on the latter, I'm intrigued. I do own the HD 800 (unmodded for now).
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